SocEntChat November 2009: eHealth & mHealth

downeym:
Michael Downey here, human-computer interaction researcher from Indiana University School of Informatics and @OpenMRS project. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:03

amycarolwolff:
Ready for #socentchat!

chloevdc:
Chloe Feinberg here, working w/Ashoka's Healthcare for All Initiative with a focus on point of care and mobile diagnostic tools. #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:05

K4Health:
The @K4Health project is ready to go #SocEntChat

JustinHerman:
Justin Herman from @SpectrumScience here, working with epatient and public health clients on digital public affairs strategies #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:07

mindofandre:
Andre Blackman - passionate about Public Health 2.0 (new media/innovation/games/mobiles) & promoting those folks/proejcts #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:08

tomjd:
@JustinHerman Hey mate so glad you're joining in #SocEntChat, looking forward to your thoughts
11/4/2009 15:08

JustinHerman:
Hey there @mindofandre @chloevdc @tomjd - fancy seeing you here on #SocEntChat - any of you going to HealthCampNYC? #HCNYC
11/4/2009 15:09

AJRenold:
Following today's #SocEntChat on eHealth and mHealth www.squidoo.com/socentchat
11/4/2009 15:10

chloevdc:
@mindofandre Hey Andre, thanks again for being one of our guests on today's #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:10

JustinHerman:
Cheers! RT @tomjd: @JustinHerman Hey mate so glad you're joining in #SocEntChat, looking forward to your thoughts
11/4/2009 15:10

JulieSof:
Julie (tweeting from here & @ACCION_USA) currently working in US Microfinance w/ interest in how social change topics intersect #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:11

garrett_mehl:
Garrett Mehl here, health researcher working on reproductive health in Geneva Switzerland #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:11

K4Health:
Thanks for having me @chloevdc #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:12

digitalsista:
RT @tomjd: @JustinHerman Hey mate so glad you're joining in #SocEntChat, looking forward to your thoughts
11/4/2009 15:13

tomjd:
I'm Tom, Soc Med director Ashoka, guy behind @AshokaTweets. I'll contribute my own thoughts to #SocEntChat from this account though :)
11/4/2009 15:13

mindofandre:
@chloevdc the pleasure is all mine to be here and learn more! #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:13

isaacholeman:
Hi, I'm Isaac Holeman. Co-founder/Field Director for @smsmedic. Based in rural Malawi. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:14

chloevdc:
Remember #socentchat is starting now, great way to continue convo from #mhealth09 and #mhs09
11/4/2009 15:14

NSUSS:
RT @AshokaTweets #SocEntChat is starting right now, join in! Topic = EHealth and MHealth: Challenges and prospects 4the future #socent
11/4/2009 15:14

irishwanderlust:
Danielle Darnell here joining #SocEntChat, studying Monitoring & Evaluation in Intl Public Health, excited to learn more about #ehealth
11/4/2009 15:14

AshokaTweets:
Wonderful to see so many leaders in the eHealth and mHealth fields logging into #SocEntChat from right around the world, thanks for joining.
11/4/2009 15:15

Pauline_Nee:
Hi #SocEntChat! Pauline, Dir .of Soc Enterprise for 88Bikes - Giving bikes to kids in orphanages & teaching them skills to become mechanics
11/4/2009 15:16
11/4/2009 15:05

chloevdc:
#ICT4D folks, #socentchat on #mhealth / #ehealth challenges and prospects for future is starting now. Join us!
11/4/2009 15:17

K4Health:
One major challenge for #mHealth is scalability #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:18

samanthabell1:
RT @chloevdc: #socentchat on #mhealth / #ehealth challenges and prospects for future is starting now. Join us!
11/4/2009 15:19

downeym:
#SocEntChat I think 3 biggest challenges are (a) dearth of health outcome studies, (b) duplication of effort, and (c) privacy implications.
11/4/2009 15:19

JustinHerman:
A key challenge in the #Mhealth #ehealth space is, and will continue to be, confidentiality versus interoperability #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:20

tamusana21:
Tamsyn here - experience in using media for health & education (e.g. int'l Sesame Street) - keen on communication for #mhealth. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:20

mindofandre:
Lots of opps happening in #mHealth space but making sure the tech is useful for population & is sustainable is a continual issue #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:20

chloevdc:
A challenge I see in future is interoperability of the "e"health systems with the "m" health systems #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:20

JustinHerman:
A key challenge of #mhealth / #ehealth is accessibility - these systems can be very complex, even the simplified ones #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:21

olivier2point0:
#SocEntChat hello i'm Olivier, community manager with danonecommunities.com, incubator of SB against malnutrition. based in Paris, France
11/4/2009 15:21

K4Health:
@downeym one way to reduce duplication of effort is to ensure experiences lives on beyond project end dates #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:21

chloevdc:
@downeym couldn't agree more about the need for more outcome studies, so many pilots, where is the data? #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:22

isaacholeman:
#SocEntChat the challenge of mHealth is to improve health outcomes, right? Challenges like scale, cost, harder to generalize than oportunity
11/4/2009 15:23

mindofandre:
@downeym the outcome/evaluation part is most definitely lacking, hope to see that change #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:24

HubBayArea:
Thank u 2all700attendees4coming2 @KIVA 's 4th Bday Party. Thanks2our vendors sponsors partners&bands! #socent #socap09 #hubba #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:24

aviars:
Want to direct y'all to Microsyntax for mobile health. http://microsyntax.org & http://code.google.com/p/omhe #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:25

K4Health:
@downeym to reduce duplication of effort we are creating living repositories of experience, etc http://bit.ly/1Qg5Ji #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:25

aviars:
#SocEntChat agree we need hard evidence this is really imporving health and saving the system money.
11/4/2009 15:25

tsepeaces:
@fanaNGO you might be interested in checking out the conversation in #socentchat about ehealth and mhealth #socent
11/4/2009 15:25

chloevdc:
There is also not enough info of what doesn't work. In typical markets, consumers can say what works /doesn't. this is different #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:25

garrett_mehl:
demonstrating 1)impact on efficiencies, effectiveness & health outcomes,2)scaling & integrating w/gov systems 3)educating public #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:26

BonnieKoenig:
@K4Health Reduce duplication of effort by having experiences live on beyond project end - Yes! Need more ways of sharing info #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:27

JustinHerman:
Wonder how this'll turn out #SocEntChat http://bit.ly/2Zlrlc NIH gave grant for mobile app w/ image/voice recognition for portion analysis
11/4/2009 15:27

aviars:
#SocEntChat health IT is loaded w/ interop issues largely stemming from vested interests promoting closed standards.
11/4/2009 15:28

aviars:
#SocEntChat let's not let #mhealth end up like the rest of health care health IT.
11/4/2009 15:28

chloevdc:
planning for continued innovation is a challenge, not tying oneself to technology and adapting to changing needs of community #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:29

isaacholeman:
#SocEntChat Biggest overlooked challenge=Empowerment. How can "experts" make sure mHealth is owned and driven by people it aims to serve?
11/4/2009 15:29

irishwanderlust:
I believe increased Monitoring & Evaluation within #mHealth programs could generate data about what works and what does not #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:29

downeym:
Open standards, interoperability, messaging - all critical to reduce redundancy of solutions - a key initiative for @OpenMRS. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:30

BonnieKoenig:
Toolkits like those being created and shared by @K4Health are a great model: repositories of experience http://bit.ly/1Qg5Ji #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:30

aviars:
#SocEntChat I'm exploring the use of a chumby http://chumby.com as a possible home health device.
11/4/2009 15:30

mindofandre:
@isaacholeman fantastic point about empowerment of the users with #mHealth - its about the improved access to info for the ppl #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:31

K4Health:
@chloevdc but also keeping in mind how innovation in diffused through audiences is also very important #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:31

isaacholeman:
#SocEntChat agreed - working with @downeym, @openMRS, @SMSmedic on open standards, interoperability.
11/4/2009 15:33

aviars:
#SocEntChat phone based solutions offer the least common denominator (even over mobile phones or wireless devices)
11/4/2009 15:33

chloevdc:
@K4Health I'd be interested in knowing more about how you are disseminating kits. Great information there. There is a demand . #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:36

garrett_mehl:
@aviars #SocEntChat not sure I agree with landline phone (non-mobile) based solutions being lowest common denominator. Not so in Africa
11/4/2009 15:36

theEHRGuy:
@aviars #SocEntChat Still with the conspiracy theory around health interop standards? It undermines a lot of hard work by many of us.
11/4/2009 15:37

chloevdc:
looks like empowerment, evaluation of health outcomes, and interoperability are some themes here #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:38

K4Health:
@chloevdc We will be disseminating the info. that is captured in the toolkits via eLearning, mHealth (hopefully to come), etc. #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:39

BonnieKoenig:
Does anyone know of other respositories of cross-cultural health oriented toolkits like those being shared by @K4Health? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:41

AshokaTweets:
Great themes and ideas coming out of #SocEntChat. Key challenges = interoperability/security, data/evaluation, scalability, sustainability.
11/4/2009 15:41

aviars:
RT @garrett_mehl: @aviars #SocEntChat Good point Garrett! I was just about to say landline is true in U.S. but outside=mobile. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:42

truenoise:
The greatest issues of communications in Africa is the lack of infrastructure mobile technologies have the greatest reach.#SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:44

aviars:
As a taxpayer I'm just asking that all medical informatics formats be free and in public domain. #HL7 is a far cry from this. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:44

chloevdc:
@BonnieKoenig Have you seen the "where there is no doctor" manual? not a repository, but cross cutting I believe. #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:45

chloevdc:
RT @AshokaTweets: Time for #SocEntChat Q2: How do m/eHealth initiatives take in the voices of users re their needs and empower them?
11/4/2009 15:46

downeym:
I think the open source model is a start to make sure we're not creating in a vacuum. Developer diversity = closer to users. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:47

theEHRGuy:
#SocEntChat Join IHE, HITSP and other efforts to harmonize the standards. It works better than complaining. Oh, but you will have to work!
11/4/2009 15:49

travelinreid:
@aviars I'm reading Texting4Health (ed. by @bjfogg). Awesome ideas for using mobile tech in public health. #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:50

K4Health:
@chloevdc thorough needs assessments and M and E #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:50

mindofandre:
Having groups of ppl dedicated to fielding feedback from users/having an open development platform can help include user voices #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:51

chloevdc:
If initiatives come from users /local, greater understanding empowerment is built in. There is a need for greater local capacity.#socentchat
11/4/2009 15:51

theEHRGuy:
#SocEntChat Open Source life cycle = 1. Start project on SourceForge, 2. Get enough free sucker developers around the world, 3. Go ...
11/4/2009 15:51

downeym:
My field (human-comp. interaction) has failed m/eHealth, esp. in developing regions. We're starting to change that, slowly. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:52

theEHRGuy:
#SocEntChat Open Source life cycle = 3. Go proprietary stating sustainability reasons, 4. Keep suckers out of the game with the fork
11/4/2009 15:52

theEHRGuy:
#SocEntChat Sorry, I prefer classical American enterprise eg(Microsoft, Oracle). At least I know their motives.
11/4/2009 15:54

ICT_Works:
Do you think they can articulate needs well enough to develp solutions? RT @isaacholeman: Big challenge: empowerment #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:54

aviars:
Hope to do this again soon. Signing off. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:55

chloevdc:
Agree w/ @isaacholeman and @downeym, reminds me of #mhs09 reference to Ugandan programmers teaching Pakistani programmers #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:55

garrett_mehl:
for clients #mhealth is accessible info in appropriate form at time & where wanted-->actionable knowledge->empowerment #grameen #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:56

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat I see much talk of beneficaries controlling solution design, but I don't hear rural ppl saying "I want java forms vs. SMS"
11/4/2009 15:56

truenoise:
#SocEntChat Open source systems have been gaining great speed in my corporate settings. It's proven very cost effective.
11/4/2009 15:57

truenoise:
#SocEntChat Open source also has the greatest ability to be modified to the individual users' needs. Thus, more likely to be adopted by ppl
11/4/2009 15:58

isaacholeman:
@ict_works I like "coded in country'. Spending extra time with local developers creates bridge between end users and westerners #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:58

ICT_Works:
Agreed. For local developers. Don't see patients caring if GSM or IP RT @chloevdc: There is a need for greater local capacity #socentchat
11/4/2009 15:59

downeym:
@ICT_Works Users very rarely care about how they get what they need/want. User-driven designers bridge the gap to technology. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 15:59

SocialEarth:
#SocEntChat - @truenoise I agree.
11/4/2009 15:59

ICT_Works:
Exactly. RT @isaacholeman: @ict_works I like "coded in country' local developers creates bridge between end users and westerners #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:00

downeym:
Creating modular, skinnable, flexible apps allow each culture to build upon something solid to meet their needs. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:01

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat I remember great point made in Leadership session: don't care how Safaricom works, just waana make a call or SMS
11/4/2009 16:01

garrett_mehl:
agreed. @chloevdc @ICT_Works design is about ensuring usability and function that fits their needs #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:02

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat so when we talk about local empowerment, let us be clear that we're talking solution developers. Clients help define proble,
11/4/2009 16:02

irishwanderlust:
@chloevdc I agree, much money has been wasted on programs that don't take into acct local usability #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:03

mindofandre:
@katrinskaya sweet - glad you could make it #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:04

chloevdc:
@ICT_Works I think there is a need to empower clients or users to be able to inform developers to act on their behalf #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:04

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat clents help define problem, still often through surrogates (clinicians) who see bigger picture. Clients validate solution design
11/4/2009 16:05

Katrinskaya:
Have we touched on different kinds of users in mhealth? #socentchat i.e. Everyday people versus community health workers and staff?
11/4/2009 16:05

garrett_mehl:
@ICT_Works I assumed "empowerment" was in the intended beneficiaries as the general population in a country, not programmers #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:05

truenoise:
@chloevdc #SocEntChat I absolutely agree. Only relevant technologies are the ones adopted by the culture.
11/4/2009 16:06

AshokaTweets:
Given this is where conversation has already gone, and it's such a key issue, I thought it worth making an official question! #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:07

downeym:
@ICT_Works raises a good point - two dimensions to/audiences for empowerment. Same with beneficiaries, too. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:07

chloevdc:
RT @downeym: @ICT_Works raises a good point - two dimensions to/audiences for empowerment. Same with beneficiaries, too. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:09

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat Devlopers have to work with what they have- no time to go Goodall - and prototype quickly. Test with users, adjust & retest
11/4/2009 16:10

Katrinskaya:
@AshokaTweets Much more local capacity. Bootcamps and innovation labs are some approaches but there are capacity gaps #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:11

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat "empowerment" can be testing with users, but note that users has two classes: clincians and benficiaries/clients, diff needs
11/4/2009 16:11

garrett_mehl:
there are ideally 3 populations empowered by #mhealth 1)general population, 2)local programmers,3)health system.If not all-fail. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:12

BonnieKoenig:
Q3: Ensuring that the capacity to bld & sustain projects is w/ local users? 1 way is to build into the process from beginning. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:13

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat in funding environment, your buyer, user, beneficaries are diff groups. Love or hate: buyer is one to satisfy. Local suffers
11/4/2009 16:14

africanhome:
@AshokaTweets local projects have greater change of continuity if the local users are among the project managers from the start. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:14

ICT_Works:
How? RT @BonnieKoenig: Q3: Ensuring that the capacity - 1 way is to build into the process from beginning. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:15

Katrinskaya:
@garrett_mehl That is a very true and wise statement often forgotten. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:15

ICT_Works:
How to make ideal, reality? RT @garrett_mehl: there are ideally 3 populations empowered by #mhealth If not all-fail. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:16

Katrinskaya:
@ICT_Works The buyers are more and more health ministries, not just donors. That is local ownership as well... #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:17

chloevdc:
Q3 also is role of government to allow for new tools to be used. Projects b run by NGO or private, with face or go-ahead of gov #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:17

BonnieKoenig:
RT @africanhome Local projects have greater change of continuity if the local users are amg the project managers from the start #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:19

Katrinskaya:
In east and west africa, health ministries are rolling out mhealth initiatives around CHW support and child and maternal health. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:21

chloevdc:
@garrett_mehl must all 3 be empowered simultaneously, or is it more of a cyclical process? I think process #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:22

ICT_Works:
True, capacity issues there too, tenure length of min of health? RT @Katrinskaya: @ICT_Works The buyers are health ministries, #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:22

ICT_Works:
In Edu Min, average tenure, 18months RT @Katrinskaya: @ICT_Works The buyers are more and more health ministries #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:23

chloevdc:
@Katrinskaya in your experience are health ministries in tune with needs of 1)population 2) local programer 3) health workers? #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:24

garrett_mehl:
@Katrinskaya good point about ministries increasingly a buyers. But difficult to build govt. support w/o impact data. need data #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:25

Katrinskaya:
@ICT_Works There are capacity issues all around. That's a given. Systems need to be resilient. But champions are defintly needed #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:27

chloevdc:
RT @garrett_mehl: need data #socentchat as governments use more m/eHealth tools, how does data get disseminated so we can learn from it?
11/4/2009 16:29

garrett_mehl:
@chloevdc cyclical process as you say. benefit to all - population, health system, local programmer. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:29

Katrinskaya:
@chloevdc Depends on where you are. Rwanda is a fascinating country in regard to your question. Work in progress. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:29

BonnieKoenig:
@ICT_Works Will b different in each situation but in my exp starting with a local planning team of end users is not always done #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:29

chloevdc:
RT @AshokaTweets: Keeping it moving, Q4: What is the best enabling environment for the implementation of m/eHealth tools? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:31

Katrinskaya:
@garrett_mehl Yes, agree. We need better data. IDRC has a resesarch cluster and some interesting prelim mhealth data #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:31

chloevdc:
Q4, as per @Katrinskaya, government buy in to m/etools is necessary, especially in health #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:33

ICT_Works:
Is it even possible? Location, language issues RT @BonnieKoenig: start with local planning team of end users is not always done #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:33

chloevdc:
environments conducive to entrepreneurial spirit, meaning people believe they can change status quo is important for m/ehealth #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:34

ICT_Works:
Country? RT @AshokaTweets: Q4: What is the best enabling environment for the implementation of m/eHealth tools? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:35

garrett_mehl:
MOHs underfunded & lacking capacity but aim to help all & coordinate. they need help @chloevdc ministries in tune with needs? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:36

ICT_Works:
Best: more $, less legacy, many proponents RT @AshokaTweets: Keeping it moving, Q4: What is the best enabling environment? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:36

Katrinskaya:
@chloevdc And MNO buy- in ;-) MNO - mobile network operator.... MutliKstakeholder dance. An ecusystem. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:36

ICT_Works:
Very vague Q: RT @AshokaTweets: Q4: What is the best enabling environment for the implementation of m/eHealth tools? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:36

garrett_mehl:
This is very encouraging @Katrinskaya IDRC research cluster and interesting prelim mhealth data #socentchat #mhealth
11/4/2009 16:37

BonnieKoenig:
@ICT_Works Yes processes to incorporate end users can be customized re: location, language, etc.but it dz take Xtra effort. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:38

wayan_vota:
RT @ithorpe: World's largest malaria vaccine trial starts in Africa http://bit.ly/35yKd http://bit.ly/2xAhnN #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:39

chloevdc:
In my experience with DataDyne in Kenya, program champions within the MoH with authority to delegate was necessary for success #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:39

famolari:
Good point. More open apps./dev/nets may reduce MNO influence RT @Katrinskaya: @chloevdc And MNO buy- in. An ecusystem. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:39

Katrinskaya:
@AshokaTweets Enabling enviro- affordability, access, security, standards - increasingly, light-touch regulation #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:39

AshokaTweets:
@ICT_Works To clarify - are there conditions that must be in place for success, regardless of country? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:40

africanhome:
One w/ minimal corruption. RT @AshokaTweets: What is the best enabling environment for the implementation of m/eHealth tools? #SocEntchat
11/4/2009 16:40

Katrinskaya:
RT @chloevdc: In my experience with DataDyne in Kenya, program champions within the MoH with authority to delegate necessary #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:41

Katrinskaya:
@garrett_mehl Yes, encouraging that they are funding this. Long term project... #idrc, #socentchat. Will find URL.
11/4/2009 16:42

chloevdc:
@africanhome great point. hope future will see m/eTools being used to demand transparency, to foster that environment #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:43

ICT_Works:
Found donors who pay for it? RT @BonnieKoenig: Yes processes to incorporate end users re: location, language, w/ effort #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:43

chloevdc:
Empowered women @ all levels. RT @AshokaTweets: What is the best enabling environment for the implementation of m/eHealth tools? #SocEntchat
11/4/2009 16:46

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat mHealth Alliance keeps talking about interoperatability (sp) but not sure it's possible w/o buyer agreement
11/4/2009 16:46

thePopeJP:
Q4: An environment of "discipling" if you will, where the techniques are taught human 2 human. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:47

famolari:
Common data formats, ontologies, extensible representations & other information handling/querry tech r good for m/e-health env #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:47

ICT_Works:
#SocEntChat data sharing is also issue. No bad data released. Never failure, just "lessons learned" - for 40 years now
11/4/2009 16:47

ICT_Works:
Again, only if buyer wants. Often privacy issues RT @famolari: Common data formats, ontologies, extensible representations #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:48

downeym:
@ICT_Works Rarely any good "data" either. Typically anecdotals. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:49

chloevdc:
@thePopeJP True. especially when it comes to engaging and inspiring the next generation to take control #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:50

Katrinskaya:
@ICT_Works It's already happening in the sense of incremental standards for medical records that can be read across systems. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:50

aviars:
RT @famolari: Common formats, ontologies, extensible representation r good for m/e-health env #SocEntChat <--love me some ontologies
11/4/2009 16:51

ICT_Works:
Really? Where? How? RT @Katrinskaya: incremental standards for medical records that can be read across systems. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:52

thePopeJP:
@chloevdc I have heard too many stories of technologies laying in waste because there's not adequate training for use - waste. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:53

chloevdc:
@downeym @ICT_Works will the community (you, me, us, all) accept bad data or will it shun those whose programs don't work? #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:54

downeym:
@chloevdc As a scientist/academic, bad data is extremely valuable to me. Let's hear more detail from the failures! #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:55

ICT_Works:
We don't matter. Funder does: will the community (you, me, us, all) accept bad data or will it shun programs don't work? #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:55

chloevdc:
@thePopeJP Yes. Need to remember tools won't get up, walk and collect data/diagnose/analyze themselves #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:56

Katrinskaya:
@ICT_Works Yes, it's hard, tough work. OMC will have suite of mhealth tools that can be deployed flexibly and talk to each other #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:56

garrett_mehl:
www.hon.ch has done some work in this area of standards for medical records and info @ICT_Works Really? Where? How? #socentchat

chloevdc:
RT @downeym: @chloevdc As a scientist/academic, bad data is extremely valuable to me. Let's hear more detail from the failures! #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:57

ICT_Works:
40+ years pf development, how many "we failed" have u read? RT @downeym: @chloevdc Let's hear more detail from the failures! #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:57

AshokaTweets:
Thanks to @garrett_mehl for suggestion that last question #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:57

irishwanderlust:
@thePopeJP agreed, technologies are limited greatly in their effectiveness without adequate training of end-users #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:57

downeym:
@chloevdc I can't research failures very well (no data) so I am stuck extrapolating from the clear successes. #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:57

garrett_mehl:
@AshokaTweets Q4: great question on role of communications in #mhealth #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:58

thePopeJP:
@AshokaTweets Good refocus,Sure Developing a great solution on good data is vital, But what about getting that tech assimilated? #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:59

ICT_Works:
Need to be in non-health language RT @AshokaTweets: What is role of comms in diffusion of mhealth innovations 2 larger audience? #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 16:59

chloevdc:
@ICT_Works Yes, b/c for 40+ years funder has been one to matter, not "we". If users,developers are empowered, incentives change #socentchat
11/4/2009 16:59

Katrinskaya:
@ICT_Works xForms, another. Just starting...there has to be a field first for standards to make sense. #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:00

ICT_Works:
If... RT @chloevdc: @I40+ years funder has been one to matter, not "we". If users,developers are empowered, incentives change #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:02

thePopeJP:
#socentchat Question, If you create a groundbreaking product and falls where no one hears it... Does it matter?
11/4/2009 17:02

garrett_mehl:
to ensure sustainability and uptake I feel communicators and educators are integral for development and scale up of #mhealth #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 17:02

chloevdc:
making communications targeted and appropriate for diff genders and ages #socentchat communication tools Q5
11/4/2009 17:04

ICT_Works:
Haha RT @thePopeJP: #socentchat Question, If you create a groundbreaking product and succeeds where no one hears it... Does it matter?
11/4/2009 17:04

famolari:
Should learn from UI/UX efforts elsewhere in mobile. Simple, effective visualziations, data input and output, yet complete #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 17:04

irishwanderlust:
@AshokaTweets a greater focus on the possible outcomes of m/eHealth innovations & how they intersect w/other development arenas #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:04

chloevdc:
RT @irishwanderlust: greater focus on possible outcomes of m/eHealth innovations &how they intersect w/other development arenas #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:05

ICT_Works:
Firm belief in gold rule:have gold make rule, we no gold RT @chloevdc: If users,developers are empowered, incentives change #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:05

irishwanderlust:
@thePopeJP yes, having the data (even if failure) can be a valuable tool for future devel & hopefully eliminating dup efforts #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:06

thePopeJP:
@irishwanderlust very much so, agreed. My greatest failures are my greatest successes at growth #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:08

Katrinskaya:
sorry hit send too soon..@ICT_Works Plus, standard health metrics such as MUAC in malnutrition monitoring have standard formats #socentchat
11/4/2009 17:09

downeym:
Thanks everyone for the dialogue - many good questions and thoughts raised. #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 17:10

AshokaTweets:
We are past the 6pm finish time but lots of great comments still coming in. Feel free to keep talking of course #SocEntChat
11/4/2009 17:12