Women:Demons or Angels

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A deaf mans look at women.

Having been profoundly deaf since my late teens, here is a short story on my take on women, are they demons or Angels?

It always amazes me that in this day and age, men still appear to have outmoded views on women and what they are capable of.

I have often wondered about this and whether there is any truth about it and if so, why so?

This embraces all cultures and some more so than others. It has it's origins almost since time began, but I do believe that we have evolved since then.

Throughout History many diverse cultures have had women Queens for example, yet the mantra still persists that somehow men are far superior than our fairer, more kindly counterparts. Recently we have witnessed this yet again in the American elections.

Why is it that men have such a low esteem of women?

Is this true?

I'm going to look into my own personal life from now on, as if truth be told. I always had a very low opinion of women, almost bordering on misogynism. It took my wife to tell me;"Kevin,I often wonder why you dislike women so much, because if you think about your life, then women have been the best to you". Apart from my college mates, who were in a class of their own, I thought about what she said and she was quite right.

I WONDER WHY

The beginnings

I then wondered why I thought like that but it has it's beginnings in what happened to me and what I saw when I was in my formative years. By this I mean when I first began to notice and take an interest in women outside of my previous experiences of being a child. I would enjoy telling you about this but many will not like it. Be that as it may, it's what happened and how I saw things, sometimes from the other side and having undergone some major changes in my life at a vulnerable age. I have no regrets except to say I wasted a life time with outmoded views and now when it's too late to fix anything, I've seen the error of my ways. Perhaps better late than never hey!

At about 16 years of age, ( believe it or not I was considered as charismatic ) and I was at a New Years party and I had a mate who had polio in his left arm and then one day playing polo-cross, he had an accident and lost the sight of one eye .Just after 12, I went outside for some fresh air and bumped into him crying.

We chatted and he told me how he wished he could have a girlfriend but no one was interested in him. I told him truthfully, that I didn't think he should put to much into it, as at that age ,they are shallow and only interested in good sportsmen and good looking guys and that they grow up and then start looking at what a guys like, more than the other things.

Perhaps that encounter was the beginning of my attitude because I thought of him often .One day at school my women music teacher stopped me and told me that I was the saddest boy she had ever known.

Two Years Later

Kind and caring

Two years later lying in Hospital, ( find out more HERE ) I was to receive fruit baskets from the boys and staff of all the houses in the school I went to. This flummoxed me as I had had a very checkered school career, more often being in trouble than not. I also got a card from my music teacher which I have never forgotten. I can still remember the words she wrote today.

The card she sent depicted, mares and their foals in a beautiful green pasture. The words she wrote were;
'Dear Kevin ,I have just heard that you have been left deaf following something in the army and I'm left horrified by this and so I could not address this letter to you as Spook. I also feel that the army have treated you abominably etc.etc.

I chose this card because it reminded me of you, especially you the cricket player'. Years later I was to make enormous headway out of this card, more often than not when my mates were teasing me about being a poor cricketer. I would then relate this story to them, putting heavy emphasis on how beautiful I must have been to watch; just like all these mares and foals frolicking around in this green field. Poetry in motion and all.

It drove them nuts as they didn't know how to retaliate.

What I'm leading up to is that she didn't have to do any of this. I wasn't a member of her family or a close friend .She did it because she is like most women, kind and caring.

I wrote to her for years after coming out of Hospital, mostly whenever I was feeling down. She told me many things amongst them, that I had been naughty at school, but never bad. I just did boyish things and I got caught doing them.

But what she was best at, was telling me not to worry about women to much and those treating me like that, weren't worth knowing anyway and she was dead right. I often wonder what happened to her as I lost track. As people; we are all over the world now, due to that lunatic Mugabe.

A short story on how

Zimbabwe came about

I always loved my old country with every fibre of my being. I still do. It goes beyond sadness in how it has turned out. There is a moral here which the world still needs to learn. Just look around you and think.
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Other Influences

Nobody cares, actually, somebody does.

Then of course there was my lip-reading teacher and the Community Sister in charge of my rehabilitation, women naturally and all who gave me of there time and helped me whenever I was down, which was often enough.

When I had my implant of course it was done by a male surgeon, but everybody else was female, all the rehabilitators and nursing staff and first class they all were to.

My wife once asked me if when I could hear,would I have gone out with a deaf girl? I was about to reply, it depends what she looks like but managed to reply; probably not, which is a very sad indictment; happy to say that I went out with plenty of women once I was better and learnt to lip-read.

Having said that I also know plenty of women who have married people in wheelchairs and those with lost limbs etc. A lot of stunners they were too.

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Meeting the Wife

How it came about.

I met my wife when her dad was doing a sheep course, run by one of the farmers who lived near me. They got friendly and at the end of the course were having a few jars. Now you might not beleive this, but it's what happened. Anyway my future wife was there and started nagging her dad and in exasperation, he turned to her and said, "what you need is someone who is 6 foot tall and deaf".

The farmer heard this and replied, "I know someone like that". He arranged for them to come and have lunch with him on Sunday and then he invited me. Well one thing led to another, but her dad was right. Sorry, couldn't resist it.

Apart from everything else, women do a lot more. They look after the children ,they wash ,they cook, they iron, they do the housekeeping, they sew,,they knit, they crochet and of course they nag, who wouldn't. They also get a lot of headaches!

On the dairy farm where I was working, it was mating season. Generally we would stick in a teaser bull to help us spot whichever cow's were going into oestrus, so we could then AI them. At this time they were being housed as it is too cold to leave them out overnight and they are left in a narrow causeway with bedding on either side.

Now I had been watching this cow all day, with the teaser bull hassling her all day, running and chasing her endlessly and she is not ready at this time. Finishing milking in the evening I took another check and this was still going on and also knew it would go on all night.

I felt so sorry for the cow and then realised that, maybe this is what it's like for real women as well. I couldn't think of anything worse especially when there, (mens) attention is not wanted. I'm suprised it took me so long to realise this. Anyway when I got home that night I said to my wife; "I finally know why you women get so many headaches."

Well,women,demons or angels?

What is your take?

I'm going to opt for angels unreservedly.

Amongst many other things.

They appreciate beauty more than we do.

Their love runs deep.

Women,Demons or Angels

Have your say on what you think.

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Angels?

glockr says:

My wife is an angel about 90% of the time but during that 10% "other" - WATCH OUT.

WriterJanis says:

I'm going to vote for angels, but in reality, it all comes down to the individual person.

ernieplotter says:

51% Angels, 49% Demons!

whiteskyline says:

Wow, what a daring question! I couldn't categorize women as either, we can all be angelic and devilish at times. I think men and women are quite similar isn many aspects, and any devilish presumptions come from simple misunderstandings, and the fact that in some ways, men and women are indeed different, and that can cause clashes, especially in the realm of romance, where I suspect the birth of a 'demonic woman' is found within a man.

AgingIntoDisability says:

This woman is an angel, however, I've known a few that had horns.

MsSnow4a says:

I know for a face that I am an angel

Northbright says:

I short of adore women, looking fast behind their imperfections, always seeing the woman in them. My blog is a tribute to them.

sorana says:

Sometimes a bit of both. However, in general, for most of us, I would say, just human beings like men are. Let's not forget that nobody is perfect.

Michey says:

I vote for Angels but I know that can be both ways.

Momtothezoo says:

Angels, of course! Our halos just get a little lopsided occasionly from all the care giving we do! :)

ChrisDay says:

As humans, we all have a bit of both in us. I will say that women are fully deserving of our respect and some we love.

says:

You know I wonder why people talk like this women are good or women are bad or for that matter about any community or group as a whole like people of this or that country or religion. This is not a wise thing. Good and bad people or angels or demons as you say are present in every community or nation or gender. If we found one or two women good or bad we should not conclude that all women are good or all are bad.

RinchenChodron says:

Of course I'm biased!

Glenn619 says:

Angels for me for sure.

paulalouw says:

thank you spook!! i love reading your experiences... its so good to know that you see the good in us girls...even if you think that "all chicks get headaches"!! i think we're rather a nice lot too!!! :))

grannysage says:

I am going to quote my husband."All women are goddesses and deserve to be treated as such." Does anyone wonder why I married him?

gypsyman27 says:

I forgot to mention that I'm a sickly soul so I've spent a lot of time in hospitals with female nurses, they were always very kind to me

gypsyman27 says:

they are angels, I have always been treated better by women, I'm glad you had the courage to broach this subject!

Sylvestermouse says:

I have known many angels, but only 1 demon :)

oztoo says:

Oh I'm sure most of us can be a little of both. In an ideal world aren't men supposed to be protectors and women the nurturers? But men have always used their strength to subdue rather than protect. Is it any wonder that women can become wily and devious to survive. If women are demons men only have themselves to blame. In an ideal world, we should see each other as different but equal.

Michelle1959 says:

An unusually presented article where the writer is humbly honest and albeit he has his own pain, he is able to see and project the truth out of situations - one small incident to others evidently had a major impact on his life! That is because he presented himself to life with an open paradigm in my opinion. Any person reading the article would be hard pressed to come to any other verdict or outcome than the author has. Thank you very much - a worthwhile, great read!

SofiaMann says:

Women can be angels or demons. Also depends on the man with whom we marry. We will respond to the treatment. Sometimes men need women to tame first, but with love and passion.

Draconius says:

I will say Angels but with a bit of caution as there is demons in each of us but it is how we control the demons within that can make anyone shine as a Angel. My loving wife is my Angel without her I dont think I could have made it to where I am today or where I will be in the future.

Write says:

Sir, considering how many of them are here, I shiver to vote truthfully!

MiaBellezza says:

The Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Hunt (albeit it was silly girls perhaps under the influence of a mold from grains that started it all), just to name a few notorious episodes in history, that portray men's dominance and violence over women and the continual sex slave trade of women throughout the World .... this pretty much sums up that the most dangerous demon of the sexes is indisputably Men!

So my answer is that there is more demon in men than women and I look forward to a female renaissance to bring this world back into balance. Let's face it, we're in a World of Sorrow and only the kindness, nurturing and constructive re-creation that women possess is our only hope. Men have messed up; now it's our turn. 5*

Thank you for your Blessing!

Demons?

michijo says:

life is a joke. women the punchline.

sousababy says:

In my life, most often a woman has been problematic and it makes me sad to say that. Men, I feel are more appreciative and willing to 'listen' (and like you, finally see the struggles of women in society). I have found women (NOT all) to be less apt to have empathy for other women. They have more empathy for men (overall - and again, NOT all women). Some women are truly secure enough to not harbor (what I feel) is rooted in jealousy and immaturity. Somehow, women compete with each other more (in my world) than support each other.
I have a small circle of evolved mature women (and some on Squidoo too), however I have a larger circle of men who respect me and my work. Somedays, I feel internally like 'one of the guys.' Great duel!

Margo_Arrowsmith says:

Women are neither, but to the guy below.....if 'statistically people are demons' the world would be a whole lot worse place. Demons stand out, but that is just wrong.

the777group says:

Statistically, they are demons - but so are men!

... says:

Bullshit, people who kiss ass too much would always deny the truth. Some may be Angels but the majority seem to be heartless demons by nature. I guess we just let a woman's good looks fool us easily. Some relationships have turned hellish because 7 to 9/10 women cause it and the blame always goes to the en when it isn't even so.

sittonbull says:

"Hell hath no fury... like a woman scorned!" I'm the world's biggest fan of women, but I would rather fight "Attila the Hun" and his mongol hordes... than a woman in full fury! Now normally I'm no coward...but discretion is the better part of valor... and I will run and hide until I see some signs it's safe to come out!

Ener-G says:

You could also call this lens: Women: Creators or Destroyers? I tell my son...stay away from girls...they're sneaky and will get you in trouble every time. I think men are afraid of us, of the power that is innately within us.

getbackup says:

I'm a woman & give give so much & love so deeply. I do think though that a woman can be much nastier than a man. For example, take my husband's ex.....I'll leave it there.
; )

Mortira says:

I like to think that a woman is an angel, but women are demons. ;)

 
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  • eccles1 May 26, 2012 @ 2:45 am | delete
    I think the beginning of all relationships we start as angels but as years and age creeps in then the love boat turns to a battle field and we become demons it always turns this way because we need to evolve from within with our partner if not it can only get worse The Power of Now a book has a great chapter on why this happens to most relationships..We need the spirituality to go back to being a angel and staying a angel :)
  • siobhanryan Mar 21, 2012 @ 10:30 pm | delete
    A wonderful article and you are a very brave man and lucky to have a good wife.I think there is both the demon and angel in all of us.
  • michijo Jan 29, 2012 @ 6:13 pm | delete
    Life is a joke and women lead you off the cliff to your death.
  • WriterJanis Jan 14, 2012 @ 3:13 am | delete
    Thank you very much for sharing your personal story.
  • jasminesphotography Sep 1, 2011 @ 5:54 am | delete
    What an interesting topic. I couldn't post in the duel, because I don't think someone can be good or bad based on gender. There are some men and women who are very kind, there are some who are pure evil, and then there are some who are in between at all different levels. I wouldn't label myself as an angel, or a demon. I know I'm not perfect, but I try to treat others with respect and as I'd want to be treated.

    Thanks for the read, have a great weekend!
  • MsSnow4a May 22, 2011 @ 11:43 am | delete
    Thnk you for sharing but too bad you had not met me long ago then you would KNOW woman are angels but we can have have a little devilish side too. :)
  • Jodi_k May 16, 2011 @ 3:14 pm | delete
    Why, I'm an angel (with tentacles - cause I'm a squid angel). Flap flap.
  • SereneSea Apr 12, 2011 @ 8:53 am | delete
    Dear Spook,
    Loved your personal experiences and the way you tried to classify them. My opinion of women are, that they are neither demons or angels - just human beings. In my world, I haven't met women angels outside my family, but my Mom was an angel, she was an intelligent woman and very kind. However, in the society I have met men and women who are to the core, mean and selfish, so I cannot in any way classify women in a certain category. I have found individual traits of angels and demons in both men and women everywhere.
  • Spook Apr 12, 2011 @ 9:52 am | delete
    A well thought out reply and thanks for the visit.
  • CruiseReady Apr 10, 2011 @ 3:42 pm | delete
    A little of both, I guess
  • Spook Apr 11, 2011 @ 4:40 pm | delete
    You guess?
  • WendyKrick Apr 8, 2011 @ 9:00 am | delete
    We are angels of course! :)
  • Spook Apr 11, 2011 @ 4:39 pm | delete
    Of course?
  • Michey Apr 7, 2011 @ 4:06 pm | delete
    It is an interesting lens, subject, your writing is so fluent and pleasant to read.
    You started a great debate...
    Regards
  • Spook Apr 11, 2011 @ 4:39 pm | delete
    It's always a pleasure to hear from you Michey and thank you.
  • Antoinette Dick Apr 7, 2011 @ 8:37 am | delete
    We're ANGELS Spook, angels! Mwaahhh specials to you!!! Thanks for sharing all that! HUGS.
  • Spook Apr 11, 2011 @ 4:37 pm | delete
    HUGS back.
  • Momtothezoo Apr 7, 2011 @ 8:29 am | delete
    As usual, a great lens for debate! I always enjoy them!
  • Spook Apr 11, 2011 @ 4:36 pm | delete
    I'm glad you do then.
  • ChrisDay Apr 6, 2011 @ 10:24 pm | delete
    I am so glad that you found your wife - some of us are very fortunate in our relationships.
  • Spook Apr 7, 2011 @ 5:08 am | delete
    Many thanks for your visit and kind comment.
  • Apr 5, 2011 @ 5:28 am | delete
    Great lens this one. Loved that incidence when you first met your wife. You seem to love your wife a lot. I have seen you mention her in many of your comments in other lenses too and I can also say that she understands you very well even more than you do. Am I right? And that means you must be a very good human being because I believe that men who sincerely love their wives are angels!
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:43 am | delete
    Thank you and I think every one understands me more than I do.
  • bakerwoman Mar 10, 2011 @ 3:53 pm | delete
    Women can't live with them, can't live without them. Women can be both angels and angels in disguise. I would not use the word demon, though. This was a fascinating read and I admire your candor. Thanks for sharing.
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:41 am | delete
    It's a pleasure and thank you for visiting and commenting.
  • RinchenChodron Feb 24, 2011 @ 10:01 am | delete
    Great job on this lens and controversial topic! Glad your wife won you over. Can't live with me and can't live without em. I like to see the God in everyone - EVEN MEN. Tho it is a challenge.
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:40 am | delete
    Sure is.
  • sousababy Feb 21, 2011 @ 9:47 am | delete
    Lensrolled to the following of mine:
    Why the "Bad" in Society seem to be Winning
    Challenging Conventional Thinking
    Doing It Anyway / Bullies info
    You are doing something right, if people don't like you
    Intelligence and Prejudice
    International Children's Day
    What men should know about women
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:39 am | delete
    Much obliged.
  • sousababy Feb 21, 2011 @ 9:42 am | delete
    We are capable as humans to be either. Selfishness usually becomes destructive and shows itself, eventually. I keep thinking about the phrase, 'know thyself.' If we can overcome our 'wants' and look towards doing 'the greater good'. . . our rewards will eventually come. I am not the most patient person and I will always need to keep that 'in-check' (among other things). LOVE this lens Spook. I will let you know which ones of mine I am lensrolling it to. Thank you so very much. Stay Well, Rose
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:39 am | delete
    So pleased to hear that and thank you.
  • sgNgix Feb 11, 2011 @ 11:11 pm | delete
    I personally believe that there is a demon in each and everyone of us, and the same goes for an angel in each demon... at the end of the day, what counts is what you nurture
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:38 am | delete
    Interesting point.
  • Glenn619 Feb 9, 2011 @ 12:39 am | delete
    I love the part where you have mentioned how you met your wife. good lens
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:37 am | delete
    Thank you.
  • Michelle1959 Feb 1, 2011 @ 1:08 pm | delete
    It's an article or lens which I think is exceptionally well written. It says a lot in a few words and certainly is thought provoking - it brings us very much back to the actual essence of life! I loved that teacher - a wise woman. Many thanks indeed - loved it!
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:36 am | delete
    Ah lovely and thank you and she sure was.
  • Color_Expert Nov 30, 2010 @ 7:49 pm | delete
    Well i might be a bit biased but I'm in the woman are Angels...or at least most of the woman I am fortunate to call friends.
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:35 am | delete
    I think that is a good reflection on you.
  • Demaw Nov 29, 2010 @ 9:54 am | delete
    I couldn't resist weighing in. We use the term demon and angels in common usage to describe people whom we consider very bad or very good. Women of course can be all over the spectrum as can men. The expectations for women are different, like the saying. "All the brothers were valiant and the sisters virtuous." Men are not usually called angelic if they do good.
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:34 am | delete
    How strange.
  • grannysage Nov 20, 2010 @ 6:37 am | delete
    Very interesting, especially since our recent FB discussion on feminism. I do feel sorry for my ex-husband who had to live with me all those years I had severe PMS. Although, I remember begging someone to get me some help and being ignored.
    And I so appreciate your blessings Spook. Feel free to stop by and visit any time!
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:33 am | delete
    You're welcome and I will.
  • Margo_Arrowsmith Nov 9, 2010 @ 6:29 am | delete
    Very interesting and brave lens. Good start on thinking about how we got where we are.

    I think that one reason why some men hate women is because they need women for so many things and don't like to need anything.
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:32 am | delete
    You could be right.
  • WriterBuzz Nov 2, 2010 @ 5:42 am | delete
    Hi there, I just found your lens and really liked it. I gave it a thumbs-up and liked it, because the information is so relavant in today's high stress world. Thanks for providing it, and keep on lensing . . . I just did one on Migraine Headaches that might interest you .
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:31 am | delete
    Thank you for that.
  • gypsyman27 Oct 27, 2010 @ 12:36 pm | delete
    This is a great lens, I love women and they have always shown me love and kindness, considering the subject you are very couragious for dealing with this subject! See you around the galaxy...
  • Spook Apr 5, 2011 @ 6:30 am | delete
    What a lovely thing to say.
  • Oct 25, 2010 @ 4:51 pm | delete
    Being emotional beings who are also highly irrational on occasion would make the question at hand difficult to answer but I would have to lean toward the angel side of things.
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