Squidoo vs HubPages

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Squidoo vs HubPages

HERE'S WHAT I THINK

I was introduced to both Squidoo and HubPages at the same time. Both are similar in their execution. I personally fell out with HubPages when they suspended one of my hubs for being self promoting. Ever since I have been an avid Squidooer and never gave a second thought to HubPages until Monkeybrain appeared. So, without further ado the gloves are off and the ripping apart can begin.

Squidoo vs Hubpages 

What Hubpages Has To Say

I recently got an email on this very subject 'Squidoo vs Hubpages' and decided that it needed adding to this debate. The email was very biased towards Hubpages with some very good evidence to support it. I have added the email below so that people can look at the evidence themselves and form their own opinions.

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HubPages vs Squidoo - Traffic


I know that there has been plenty of discussion (and Hubs, by ......) comparing HubPages to Squidoo, a similar Web service.

We recently signed up with Quantcast, a service that tracks and makes publicly available, sites' traffic figures. Although we've only recently installed Quantcast on HubPages, so month's worth of data is not yet available, preliminary data is already available, as it is for Squidoo, so we thought we'd point you in the direction of what we've found...especially since it makes HubPages look particularly good!

Monthly unique visitors - snapshot Monday 3/24/08
  • HubPages - 6,366,080 - this is a bit behind what our Google Analytics numbers tell us, but there might be some catching up to do on Quantcast's end
  • Squidoo - 6,580,314
Pieces of content - Hubs and lenses
  • HubPages - 94,801 Hubs
  • Squidoo - 450,000 lenses (at least according to the official lens)
Traffic per Hub/lens
  • HubPages - 67 visitors/Hub/month
  • Squidoo - 15 visitors/lens/month
That's right - HubPages gets over 4 times the traffic per page of content than Squidoo. That's pretty major, especially considering that our traffic does not include pornography, while Squidoo does allow that. (We know from our own experience that porn attracts a lot of traffic, but generates little/no income.) Combined with YieldBuild, an ad optimization and management service that maximizes each Hub's revenue, we believe HubPages has the best platform for writers to earn money on their online writing.

Why? We believe that maintaining strict, high standards for quality - not allowing overly promotional, spammy, content, and rewarding unique, original writing, has resulted in much higher average quality on HubPages than Squidoo.

We would like to thank you, the Hubbers, for publishing great-quality Hubs, and for flagging Hubs that don't meet our community's standards. Kudos to all of you!

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Well there you go. There is nothing like blowing your own trumpet. I have a few rebutals of my own here.
  • Squidoo counts unpublished lenses in its total amount of lenses.
  • Its true that Squidoo allows x-rated lenses and so it should. It proves that Squidoo is not the dictatorship that Hubpages is.
  • Overly promotional! I had a hub banned for having 4 links back to my own site in it - Squidoo encourages promotional lenses. In fact, what is the point in doing a lens on promoting your site if you can't promote your site?
  • 15 visitors/lens/month - we lensmasters know that that figure only applies to lenses that are ranked at 50,000+.
  • Squidoo must be doing well for Hubpages to try and compare themselves with it!

Squidoo vs HubPages 

Which do you prefer and why?

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Squidoo

MindGuru says:

I like the variety of modules and the ability to use html

packetlog says:

Sorry, just trying to make the link clickable. Hope it works:
VOTE: Best Competition or Possible Threats to Squidoo's Dominance

packetlog says:

I have 0 hubs and 8 lenses. I am new to Squidoo too. I did surf around and took a look at Hubpages, Google Knol, Oondi, etc. Designwise I think Squidoo is the best - just love how smooth it feels and everything just fits together. Hubpage design team needs to work harder - it seems 1995ish to me sorry, hubbers.

Google Knol says: "A good tone to aim for would be similar to that of a textbook or a pamphlet: clinical and informative."
Clinical? That really put me off. Now why do I associate 'clinical' with 'sterile'? Reading a few articles there, I am really not very happy with the tone used by Knol community.

Well, I just started a lens where you can vote who could be the best competition (or threat) to Squidoo. Please kindly do visit this page and cast your vote: http://www.squidoo.com/squidoo_competition

Thank you.

Tomas Jay says:

What the heck is HubPages?
;-)

VARADHARAJAN says:

both are good.since i always work with squidoo, i go for squidoo

intiendes says:

It is mostly created for promoting something, so it should not ban pages that have lots of links to one site.

KelleyEidem says:

Right now one of my Hub pages is ranked #1 in the health category, where it has been all day (usually at hub, rankings bounce all around, but I'm so far on top, it's holding steady for the day) after sending a massive collection of targeted visitors to my hub.

But is has produced $-0-. In contrast, I sent the same target audience to squidoo last week and made a bunch of sales.

Hub is okay if you want to live off of adsense and amazon sales. But if you have a real product, well there's no comparison.

Hub is fun. It's fun seeing my hub on the top of the list.

But I feel like a wasted several hours sending all that traffic there, when it could have come this way and earned some compensation for the effort.

The best to you.

Kelley Eidem

nina_kuriloff says:

I love Squidooing!
I only know about Hubpages based on what I read about it here, but I am tempted to check it out.
:)

LauraMarie says:

I have recently just joined hubpages but I still prefer squidoo. You can do much more with lenses and add many more modules whereas you are limited at hubpages. I have done fairly well with one of my lenses that promotes money making sites and have gained many referrals from this, so my vote is definately with squidoo

fanfreluche says:

I am still trying to figure out hubpage. But right now, with so little time, I mostly do squidoo. But having both is the way to go I think.

blondeheroine says:

Use them both. Why not? I find my Hub traffic and my Squid traffic to pretty darn equal. Why do would one even consider putting all their eggs in one basket, anyway? I'm going to choose Squidoo simply because it's their debate module that made this debate possible.

AlisonLee says:

Looks like I have to start hubbing too... For now I definitely love building lenses!

texasshutterbug says:

Squidoo for me is the way. I have looked at hub pages but the idea of having to let hubs into my adsense account doesn't fit with me to well. Squidoo on the other hand just ask for a paypal address so you can get your dough or make a donation to whatever charity you desire. just my squidoo 2 cents

Gregory-and-Shelina says:

We've only done a few lenses on Squidoo which seemed hard at first because we add so much to it but are very interested in trying HubPages. We keep seeing advertisements for writers to author hubpages with two links for $5 to $10 per article. Wonder how many people have Squidoo sites authored by others?

Victoria_Neely says:

I've published one hub so far. I really should play around with Hubpages more to get a better feel for it. However, I prefer Squidoo. I like that Squidoo encourages you to promote your stuff and isn't overly strict about what kind of lenses you can create.

Rock_The_Ice says:

Because HubPages don't pay for their domain name! =]

funwithtrains says:

I just recently opened a Hubpages account and look forward to trying it out. I like Squidoo a lot. However, I'm concerned that some ebay sales that I know were made are not registering.

kiwisoutback says:

I think HubPages has a long way to go in terms of customization. When it's all said and done, the pages look boring.

adez7 says:

I have one hub page and 22 lenses, enough said@!

bdkz says:

Squidoo is much better then Hubpages!

HubPages

lissie says:

I prefer HubPages primarily because as Maddie says : I get indexed fast real fast: my latest hub http://hubpages.com/hub/NIche-Store-Writer-EBay got indexed in less than 2 hours

MishaA says:

So far I have better luck with Hubpages :)

BABYKITTY says:

I really like them both but for different reasons.

Squidoo is more for business usage with not so much personal connection. I have found and am using soooo much information from Squidoo that I am really gratful for and couldn't have made it this far without. A great big "THANK YOU" to all the really smart people here who have taken the time to share their knowledge and tips!!

HubPages has some really great writers who are there just for the sake of writing and not promoting products. Also, it's so great to make connections with people through the different forum topics and comments that aren't self-promoting but just people talking to other people. I really like that.

I will agree that Squidoo has more bells and whistles to play with and makes cooler looking pages than Hub.

Right now---I use them both and am curious to see where they're both headed in the future. It's about 55% HubPages and 45% for Squidoo.

Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com says:

texasshutterbug:

HubPages doesn't go into anyone's AdSense account. We don't share revenue, we share impressions, meaning that your affiliate IDs are shown on 60% of pageviews, and ours are shown on the other 40%. This alleviates people's fears that we might be "reaching in" and getting grabby ;)

For more information, visit our FAQs at http://hubpages.com/faq/#program

Hope this serves to clarify.

Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com says:

Hi. I'm the Community Manager over at HubPages, and I just wanted to contribute something to the discussion:

Running a tight ship is part of the reason HubPages ranks so well in Google, and that Hubs get indexed so quickly. It's been shown time and again that context-based SEO campaigns outperform blatant marketing, and it is in the former area that HubPages excels. Considering the traffic numbers quoted above, two links to your own site from a well-written, original hub could be deemed in many respects to be worth more to you than a lens stuffed full of keywords and backlinks.

Of course, it all depends on the angle you wish to take. Squidoo and HubPages are very clearly headed in different directions. So, while Squidoo may be better for some things (link-dropping, transparent self-promotion), HubPages outperforms in others. The debate, I'm sure, will continue.

N376 says:

Squidoo and HubPages have a lot to offer. On one hand, very similar. On the other, so different.

There are certain rules, guidelines, strengths and weaknesses for each. It's like sailing a boat. You know how to handle the boat and you have a feel for the currents and the wind and weather, and you're off and sailing. Change the boat, or the location, and you need to re-adjust the way you approach the changed conditions.

Those who apply themselves to the other as much as they have with the first will find both easy to use and navigate. Play to their strengths. Soon you'll find that while you may devote more time and energy to one platform that having your eggs in two separate baskets will build a more solid foundation if you're seeking to make money on the internet from writing quality articles.

My personal opinion is a split decision. I'm happy as a pig in mud that I've got two top quality sites to publish my content both run by fantastic people.

 
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I realise this is one of my shortest lenses but it's main purpose is the Squidoo vs Hubpages fight. So please join the fight and leave any other feedback right here.

MindGuru wrote...

One of the best debates I've seen on Squidoo. For now, I'm just at MindGuru on hubpages, but after reading this, I will probably put some additional content into hubpages.

ReplyPosted January 04, 2009

cheerfulmadness wrote...

Interesting debate :) rated 5 stars.
Hubpages has far too many limitations: I am an artist and Squidoo is much better to showcase my artwork and sales... For me at least, Squidoo is just the job.

All the best,

Cheerful Madness!!

ReplyPosted January 04, 2009

MaryK wrote...

I understand the temptation to compare...yet if you ask me this is apples to oranges - They're both DELICIOUS fruit but when you're craving one the other won't satisfy! ;-)

I love em both equally but differently!

ReplyPosted May 07, 2008

AlisonLee wrote...

interesting... I really have to check out hubpages soon... meanwhile, squidoo rules! :)

ReplyPosted May 07, 2008

BigJim wrote...

Thanks for a constructive debate. I've linked to you over at my Add Your Profile lens.

ReplyPosted May 02, 2008

 
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