Stephen Hawking's Quotes Take On God

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Hawking On God: Who Needs Him?

Last year, when Stephen Hawking's new book, The Grand Design, was released his quotes on God dismissed any and all supreme beings by declaring that creation "does not require the intervention of some supernatural being or god," the media reacted typically, assuming in advance that an individual of great genius in one field must also be in all the others. That's about like taking for granted that the best quarterback in football is certainly the best tennis player.

Once the Stephen Hawking on God scenario was established, they promoted Hawking's rejection of God as if he might be one himself.

Now, he's at it again. Declaring at a public conference that we are our brains, our brains are computers, and when we die, it's the equivalent of shutting off the power.

Without getting into the finer points of quantum physics or God, I can summarize Stephen Hawking's quotes this way: The laws of physics are adequate to explain the creation of the universe without any outside assistance from You Know Who, thank you very much. Our perceptions of life as divinely inspired or connected and our beliefs about life after death are fairy tales we create to confound our fears.

The thoughts of Steven Hawking on God struck me as odd, since I had already determined that the laws of physics are God. Or, phrased more accurately, the laws of physics represent the possible brushstrokes of God with which all of the universe is able to go about creating itself.

Your stand on the God issue...?

Yes, No, Maybe?

  • Vortrek_Grafix Apr 3, 2012 @ 2:17 pm | delete
    While I have a great respect for Hawking and other geniuses in his league, physics, philosophy, religion, science fiction, or whatever, have yet to fill in all the unknowns of creation model. Based on this premise I say "maybe". If one equates god as the energy innate to the universe, then in my view there is no inconsistency between any of the thought disciplines on the subject.
  • Nabis Mar 31, 2012 @ 11:51 am | delete
    read Tielhard de Chardin's "The Phenomenon of Man"; Evelyn Underwood's "Mysticism", Alvin Noe's "why we are more than our brain" and Ken Wilber's "Up from Eden". Become a mystic and see that life is magical, beautiful, strange and sacred. That....is true divinity.
  • DaveStone13 Mar 31, 2012 @ 12:23 pm | delete
    Nabis, while I respect your position, one taken by many passionate people, but it's not for me. The idea of a divine or higher (mystic) self as a separate, better self makes little sense and is a an instrument of control used by many, if not all, religions. Whatever we are, from smelly feet to the rainbows of heavenly awareness, is meaningful and fully and equally what we are.

    Divine or mystic visions are diversions intended to give us the illusion of being less earthly and not like the other animals. In reality, it separates us more from ourselves than it uplifts us.
  • najem Mar 20, 2012 @ 6:55 pm | delete
    Nice lens about Stephen Hawkings! I am leaning more to no on the God issue...
  • DaveStone13 Mar 20, 2012 @ 7:09 pm | delete
    Plenty enough out there to keep you busy for a lifetime. Enjoy!
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Stephen Hawking's Quotes and God

Humility vs Hubris

Hubris is defined as excessive pride or self-confidence and, in its root Greek tragedy meaning, refers specifically to defiance of God. I think we've got an example here with Stephen Hawking's quotes.

First, lets take on the laws of physics, as Hawking thinks of them, and answer the simple question of how much we don't know about them with an even simpler - A lot.

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Advocates of the highly advanced version of superstring theory known as "M Theory" believe there are eleven dimensions, seven more than those we recognize now, when you include time as a dimension that interweaves the other three. As part of the reality in which we all operate, these dimensions are as much a part of our lives as those we know, just not visible to us. While this is an extremely weird situation, it certainly ought to give smart individuals pause before making profound announcements about anything universal. Why is it so hard to say, "We just don't know?"

Dealing with a range of "things" in the universe, from some almost too obscure to be called "things" at all to the impossibly large, we are able to see clumps of matter we call reality and which evolution has given us the skills to recognize. The rest is theory, brilliant, wild, crazy and unproven.

The mass of things we don't know is enough to keep scientists exploring for centuries. We are a very young species. Science is in its infancy. This should be humbling insight, but for Stephen Hawking, it is not.

What justifies the assumption, in the first place, that physics ought some day be able to explain everything? Just because scientists say so? That's fine, as long as they are talking to other scientists. The cocksure posture of many scientists, especially the power hitters, evades the fact that we don't even know for sure what gravity, possibly the most powerful force in the universe, is. We know that it is, and we have theories. That's all. Forget about dark energy, dark matter and the mysterious dimensions superstring theory demands.

Next, let's take on God. I am assuming that in dismissing "god," Hawking is tossing into the scrapheap every rendition, including mine. I will join him in junking the annoying God of the Gaps, hustled in to explain anything science has not; the Medieval Gods that have been extended into modern times through reinvention, some of it fairly desperate and intellectually dishonest; and those who never claimed to be Gods but got promoted by followers and proselytizers anyway-Jesus, Lao Tzu, Buddha, etc.

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Kicking out Gods who should have been polite enough to go quietly is easy enough. None of the miracles claimed by any of them approached the polio vaccine in alleviating human suffering, and none of them elevated human enlightenment as much as, say, Albert Einstein. But that's a far cry from vaporizing the concept as unnecessary in total.

The Miracles We Know

In a tiny corner of the universe, fairly close to us, astrophysicists have discovered an incubator of baby suns. It's at the center of our own galaxy, and new suns are being pumped out continuously. They spin out into the galaxy, just as the sun that fills our world with light must once have.

The space this incubator occupies is too tiny to be explained. The Milky Way itself is one of millions of galaxies, and one with nothing extraordinary about it. Yet, this minuscule (relative to the rest of the universe) incubator has vastly more energy and power bursting in every direction than our mighty power systems on Earth will generate in our entire history.

When we think about that tiny pocket of power extending through the rest of the conceivable universe, we see an entity so massive and complex that the minds we now have are incapable of imagining it. All we really have, in spite of Stephen Hawking's certainty, is theory subject to holistic blindness. There is certainly more out there than any of us have begun to imagine. Some of it will turn out to be miraculous, even Godlike.

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Stephen Hawking and The Laws of Physics

In what is ruled (or maybe just revealed) by the Laws of Physics, is where any God would have to exist in every particle, law or flicker of energy. God would have to permeate all of it.

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And by "permeate," I don't mean sit idly. I mean inform and inspire. In an orderly universe, at least as far as we can conceive it, every object must be connected and operating in a way that infers both intelligence (distinguished from thinking) and intention. Otherwise, we would have only chaos and not order. Intelligence and intention were the gifts God handed out as the Laws of Physics Stephen Hawking has mastered so well. And even if God is away on business, as Tom Waits suggests, we still need the laws.

Science and Religion

Comparable

An argument has been made that science and religion are so different that neither should be compared with or comment on the other. How do you feel about it?

Are the insights or truths gained from science and religion comparable?

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No, that would be worse than comparing apples and oranges.

CHalloran says:

I do think it would be comparing apples and oranges. I take religious texts as part of mythology and partly history. And how much of what we call "legitimate" history is really accurate, we don't know that either as texts were altered in time by dictators, emperors etc.

Yes, each is just a way of trying to explain things we may not ever understand.

bloomingrose says:

Too much for any of us to understand!

darciefrench says:

Yes, but what folks often miss is that both science and religion are powered by the same Source

Ruthi says:

My understanding of both science and religion is limited by my own experiences. I glean knowledge, insight, and truth from both.

 

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  • bloomingrose Mar 14, 2012 @ 10:51 am | delete
    Lovely lens. You both honored and argued with that great mind Stephen Hawking. I really don't know what "god" is exactly, these days I think I am part of god. But do know that I believe in the continuation of the Mind after death. Angel Blessed for taking on a hard topic, discussing it intelligently and bringing us some beautiful pictures.
  • darciefrench Jun 22, 2011 @ 9:13 pm | delete
    Still laughing Dave ... man I love your 'expose' lenses - thanks for bringing this egghead and his prized thoughts to light - the intellect, afterall, is the greatest barrier to the nonlinear.. I'll still be laughing when we're on the other side and we're going, see, Steve, God is afterall.. in good humor of course
  • Ruthi Jun 17, 2011 @ 12:07 pm | delete
    Excellent lens and topic. I will be sharing the link with a few friends I know would find your sharing of Hawking of interest.
  • DaveStone13 Jun 17, 2011 @ 12:13 pm | delete
    I'd love to see what comments others can add to this endlessly interesting subject. Thanks, Ruth.
  • sukkran Jun 5, 2011 @ 1:21 am | delete
    great topic and well presented lens.
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