St. Patrick's Debate

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St. Patrick's Day vs. Being Irish

St. Patrick's Day has always been a holiday of conflicting emotions for me. You might think that it would all just be fun and parties for an Irish girl like me, but that right there is part of the problem.

Growing up with the stereotypes of the Irish being people who like to get drunk and then fight, can be funny at times, but also offensive. All of my male relatives are not cops or drunk priests and we rarely eat cabbage and I've never had green beer.

My mother was a Murphy and my father is a Quinn, I am 3/4th Irish and 1/4 French. My Grandma Murphy was full-blooded French-Canadian, but every St. Patrick's Day she was 100% Irish by marriage, and had 50 years worth of St. Patrick's Day Parade buttons to prove it.

Who was St. Patrick?

The man behind the Myth

First off, his name wasn't even Patrick, it was Maewyn Succat. He wasn't even born in Ireland, no one is certain where in Greater Brittan he was born, but it definately wasn't Ireland.

He was kidnapped and taken to Ireland when he was 16, where he spent the next 6 years as a slave. He worked as a sheppard there, then one night he supposedly dreamed of how to escape.

After his escape he credited his time in slavery in Ireland as what inspired him to lead a life as a missionary. After studying St. Germain, bishop of Auxerre, for twelve years, he eventually went back to Ireland, where he spent 30 years converting pagans, baptizing people and setting up monasteries,

St. Patrick vs. The Snakes

The biggest myth of all.

No one is really sure where this myth originated either, but there weren't ever any real snakes in Ireland for St. Patrick to drive away. The reality is most likely that the snakes were symbolic of the pagans.

The Church and St. Patrick believed that the Irish Pagans were heathens and evil. Thus by converting the pagens to Christianity he was credited with driving the "snakes" a symbol for "pagans" out of Ireland.

The reality is that the pagans never actually left Ireland, and even many that were successfully converted to Christianity, still practiced many of their pagan rites, especially herb and rootwork for medicinal purposes.

My own Great-Grandma Murphy who came to America from Ireland in the late 1800's, went to Catholic mass every Sunday, but was considered an Irish witch by her friends, family and neighbors, because she used herbal remedies and still practiced many of the old Celtic pagan rituals that had been passed down from mother to daughter for centuries.

The Shamrock

The truth behind the Legend

Yeah, yeah, yeah...we've all heard the one about how supposedly St. Patrick used a shamrock to explaine the "holy trinity" of Christianity to the pagans in his efforts to convert them.

The reality is that the shamrock was a sacred symbol in Ireland long before St. Patrick was a gleem in his father's eye.

Ancient Druids and Irish Celts long revered the shamrock for it's three leaves because the number "3" has long been considered mystical and sacred. The three leaves that are shaped like hearts have been associated with the Triple Goddess of Celtic mythology, also known as the "Three Morgans". The Triple Goddess represented the Triple Mothers, the hearts of the ancient Celtic tribes.

The Celtic traditions all revolve around the Irish trinity, which is much older than the Christian trinity. According to these traditions all things in life revolve around the number three....

Birth...Life...Death

Girl...Woman...Crone

Past...Present...Future

Earth...Water...Air

Hope...Faith...Charity

These are the things that the Irish Shamrock really symbolizes.

My Favorite Irish Music

Real Irish music!

When I was a kid my parents were folk musicians...it was the 70's lol...anyway I grew up hearing them perform lots of the fun Irish folk and Irish pub songs, and to this day I still love this fun music!

“The best part about being Irish is our connection to the wee folk...I just love them all!”

Fairies

Everyone loves fairies!

I love fairies, and it's one of my favorite things about being Irish is our connection to fairies and all the other wee folk...There are fairy myths and legends throughout Irish history...and even though the Leprechaun became the symbol for St. Patrick's Day...you can't think Irish without thinking of the wonderful world of fairies!

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Do you believe in fairies?

Have you ever seen a fairy?

Share your fairy stories here.

Are Fairies Real?

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irish says:

i've seen it one

Tiggered says:

After too much absinthe :)

grannysage says:

I can't say I've seen one, but I think my camera took pictures of some all by itself. You can see them on my Romantic Gifts lens. Fairies are definitely real but I think they live in a different dimension or vibration which is why we can't see them most of the time.

ChrisDay says:

Where would we be without them?

ChrisDay says:

Too right they are!

No

CCGAL says:

As much as I delight in the tales of wee folk et al, I can't honestly say I believe they exist. I wish they did ... or perhaps I wish I believed they do. Love the stories, though.

 
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Leprechauns!

The wee folks symbol for St. Patrick's Day!

Even though leprechauns are usually seen as friendly little drunk folk guarding pots of gold. In Irish history, they are actually evil little mean spirited folk, that are kind of feared.

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We've Americanized them as being cute and having "lucky charms" but I've always thought they were kind of creepy.

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St. Patrick's Day is about fun!

When all is said and done I guess it all just comes down to having fun...and regardless of the facts and fiction around St. Patrick's day...Every day is what you make it, holiday or not, it's just a great excuse to wear green, have a party and have fun!

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    CCGAL Apr 5, 2011 @ 9:39 am | delete
    This was a fascinating lens. I have some Irish ancestry mixed up in all the rest of my Heinz 57 pedigree, so this was an extremely interesting lens to me.
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    grannysage Mar 27, 2011 @ 9:25 am | delete
    I've been refusing to celebrate St. P's day for years because of the snakes/druid connection. I consider it to be a day of mourning for a people who were forced to change their beliefs, much like the Native Americans protest Columbus Day. Then recently I read an article with a different viewpoint and it appears that whole debate is based on misinformation. I am always open to new information so next year I might celebrate differently. You can Google Wild Hunt St Patrick's Day if you want to read it.
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    ChrisDay Mar 18, 2011 @ 2:56 pm | delete
    Super lens - lensrolled to my St Patrick's Quiz and my Ireland Quiz lenses.
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    KonaGirl Mar 17, 2011 @ 9:23 pm | delete
    You go girl! Tell it like it is. I really enjoyed your lens. Happy St. Paddy's Day. Leaving you with a Lucky Leprechaun Blessing on this magical day and your lens has been added to the St. Patty's Day Blessings on "My Squid Angel Wings" lens
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    ajgodinho Mar 17, 2011 @ 8:27 pm | delete
    Enjoyed learning a few more things through this wonderful lens. Wishing you the best and hoping and praying for good health, peace and happiness! Here's a...**Lucky Leprechaun Blessing**
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