Stumbleupon explained for lensmasters

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Stumbleupon is great fun, and a tool for self-promotion, but for lensmasters there are also a few drawbacks. There are limits to the amount of self-promotion you can do.
Like any online service, it only works for you if you respect the goals of the site owners and the community.

Stumbleupon explained

Stumbleupon is a toolbar you can add to your browser. Once installed you can use it to find sites on your interests from all over the internet. It is also, for webmasters, a way to promote your own material.

More votes for pages, means that more people will see them.

The limits to that, and there ARE limits, will be explained further on.

With each page you see, you can say you like it (thumbs up) or you don't like it (thumbs down).

If a lot of people give a page thumbs up, it will be sent to more people through the stumbleupon network.

How to give the thumbs up



See the circled thumbs there? Thumbs up is done by clicking the thumb that points upwards. Thumb down (if you don't like something a stumbler sent you) is clicking on the thumb that points down.

So simple once you know how.

What's stumbleupon for?

The new websurfing

Stumbleupon is meant to be a sort of channelsurfing for the web. It is an easy way to find interesting or funny stuff online.

This fits the mood of squidoo perfectly. Squidoo at its best is also about having fun and informative content.

But as I said: that doesn't mean you can just thumb up only squidoo pages. That will not work...

Self-promotion: stumbleupon site promotion limits

Stumbleupon is about sharing, not about merely promoting

Because stumbleupon can bring huge amounts of traffic to websites (I've had a few thousand come to one page in 24 hours), it has become a way for webmasters to promote their own stuff.

But since that is an obvious incentive for misuse and spam, there are limits. These are some of the rules that apply:

Don't Thumb up too many pages from the same domain (say squidoo) - the votes will NOT count.
I estimate that you can not thumb up more than 10% from the same website without tripping their filter. But I've seen the effect faster. The first squidoo page I thumbed up (one of my own) got a few hunderd visitors from that one thumb up. The second only a few dozen.

After a few the votes will not even be counted. That's when it is time to go stumble something else. After a while (and 10 other pages is an optimistic estimate) your votes WILL count again.

If you and your friends consistently thumb up the same sites/pages (for instane squidoo-pages), the votes will also be ignored. Stumbleupon will see it as an attempt at manipulation of their results.

The way around this issue is to thumb up online pages that link to your lens. This will still only work when those pages aren't all on the same domain (like your blog). But if your lens is so good it gets links from outside squidoo, give that page the thumbs up, instead of your lens itself.

Tags on stumbleupon

On squidoo you can add tags to pages and there's room for a lot of tags. You can go up to 40.

In stumbleupon you can only add about 5 tags, and most people only add one. Because of that it only works to have very broad tags.

Tags like 'politics', or 'squidoo' will work, whereas a tag like 'Purple squid' will be way to specific. Think broad match.

If a page of yours is being stumbled, go check if it's been 'categorised' correctly. You can go change it, and it can make a lot of difference. Squidoo pages for instance will usually be indexed as 'internet'... And since many pages are about other things, that is often not the best place for them to be.

People get shown pages based on the categories they chose and the tags they use - so you don't want your page in the wrong category.

How to find and change the category your page was put into in stumbleupon

stumbleupon tip

So - you know you want your page in the right category... But how do you know which category it's in?

1) Go to that page in your browser
2) look at your stumbleupon toolbar, it will look something like this:



3) click on the button I highlighted above
4) Go to the bottom of that page, where you will see (on the right) something like this:



5) You can probably guess the rest: click on 'report this' and change the category into one that fits your topic.

Don't just promote - be real

The main thing I hope you all take away from this is:

Don't use stumble to only promote squidoo pages. That will not work. What will work is to participate in the community, thumb up things you think is interesting. THEN every once in a while you can thumb up your own, or other peoples, squidoo pages.

In other words: don't be a promoter, be a human being.

What kind of content works on stumbleupon - and what doesn't

What is NOT going to work (so don't even try):
  • selling things


What IS going to work:
  • Unique, inspiring content

  • Funny stuff

  • Beautiful stuff

  • Very informative stuff

What can you stumble?

You can stumble basicly two things:

  1. webpages - any webpage, including squidoo-pages

  2. pictures - this is what makes it so nice to have a stumbleupon blog: you can show off some of the great pictures that can be found online. And through the rss module you can show those off on your lenses

The beauty of stumbleupon

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General tips on social bookmarking and social marketing

Get to know the culture of the space you are getting into first.
Market second.

The thing about social bookmarking and social marketing is that it really is social.

Every group has its culture. Every company has its culture. Every country has its culture. Get to know the culture before sticking your neck out.

Within Stumbleupon that means:
  • check out what kind of blogs people are making.

  • Stumble a lot.

  • Check out the comments people are making on the sites you are stumbling

  • Check out the comments people make about sites you know well

  • Comment on sites you know well (I didn't mean your own sites)

Stumbleupon and lensrank

Stumbleupon can bring hundreds of visitors to your page. That is good: more visitors means higher lensrank.

BUT stumbleupon visitors are not likely to:
  1. click out of your lens.

  2. buy things on your lens.

  3. even do more than glance


Stumbleupon visitors have a very easy way to find something new: they click on the stumble button. This means that following the links you painstakingly put on your page is not high on their priority list.

And lensrank depends on everything I just mentioned:
  1. visitors

  2. followed links

  3. sales

  4. + votes: stumblers are just like ordinary visitors from google: not likely to vote for your lens

My stumbleupon blog

Kh7 aka Sprituality on stumbleupon. You can add your stumbleupon blog to your lensography (for instance) as an RSS-feed with the RSS module. Turn on HTML so the pictures show up.
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Any use to stumbleupon visitors?

Sure:

Stumbleupon visitors are an interesting crowd:
  • They are web savvy - and therefore more likely to link to your site than google-visitors

  • They are potentially interested in your topic, so they may bookmark your lens

Has stumbleupon worked for you in promoting squidoo lenses?

Have you had squidoo lenses become hugely popular through stumbleupon?

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Yes, stumbleupon is great for promotion

ltraider says:

To some degree it has

Warrenpeace21 says:

I know that Stumbleupon is great for promoting sites and has worked for my Squidoo lenses.

alberttwolf says:

It has worked indeed, however, not on all my lenses. Two of them got heaps of traffic, but the ones that I submitted later not so much. It seems that for some of them my vote and the votes of my friends didn't count at all. Which is probably due to getting stuck in their filters sort of. Now I didn't submit dozens of lens of course, less than ten actually, but seems like that was enough for filters to go up. In cases like these it seems that votes from non-friends are the ones that really count.

Tipi says:

You know what, I did get traffic from Stumble before. I relly should use it again! Hmmm!

OhMe says:

yes it has but I sure needed all this information, too. Thanks

No, I never got more than a few dozen visitors through stumbleupon.

jvernier33 says:

Probably mostly because I just started a couple days ago...

Tolovaj says:

I still dream of dozen visitors in a day:)

EcoGecko says:

Something to think about however I'm not sure that traffic is useful if they don't even read your lenses. A higher lens rank will probably only be useful in the future when I have more lenses, I'll think about it until then however I doubt that there's much point.

akumar46 says:

Actually I was not aware of this fact.

golfspice says:

As I am new to lens building/promoting lenses, I have yet to use stumbleupon. Still trying to understand benefits/drawbacks etc. Your lens and explanation was very helpful.

 
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Stumbleupon and SEO - search engine optimization

Stumbleupon will NOT help your lens rank any higher in google. Not directly anyhow. This is because links in squidoo are no-followed. It's a measure they took to avoid people spamming the system.

Indirectly however stumbleupon CAN lead to links.

  • It can help you find related sites that just might give you a link if you ask them nicely

  • People on stumbleupon just might have websites related to yours and might just link to your lens without you even noticing


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