The Many Schools of Identifying Vintage Bakelite
To a novice, the ability to accurately identify vintage Bakelite can be a daunting task. My entry into the world of antique and collectibles began in the 1970's when my friends and I scoured the antique shops, shows and flea markets for fun and funky things with which to furnish our homes.
In the 1980's, I found myself in the antique and collectibles market as a dealer. Bakelite had earlier found it's way into my heart but it got real seriously embedded in my heart in the 80s when I purchased a couple of great Bakelite pins from my pal, Delsie. I still have one of them. The other I sold to a gentleman I met at an antique show who quickly became someone I consider to be a friend. He also became a mentor of sorts, helping me to learn a great deal about a lot of things. Because of that, I want to help out those of you who are new to learning how to differentiate between Bakelite and other plastics. Just paying it forward!
Most of us have already heard about Simichrome, Novus and 409** as well as the rub 'n' sniff and hot water smell test for identifying vintage Bakelite.
I'm going to explore some odd-ball alternative methods you might be able to employ in a pinch. But first, let's talk a bit more about the etiquette of testing and a bit about what you are doing when you test so - perhaps - you will better understand the meaning of your testing results.
**Please note:: 409 is NO LONGER a viable product for testing for Bakelite. They changed their formula and it no longer works for anything except CLEANING DIRT off your jewelry or collectible plastic item.Reader Feedback
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Kitschupkisses
Mar 8, 2009 @ 1:34 pm | in reply to LingerieLady | delete
- Thanks so much, Ellen! You are the first person to even bother to read this, I believe.
And definitely the first t comment. You are most welcome - any time!
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Mar 8, 2009 @ 1:17 pm | delete
- Great lens !! Wow have you taught me a lot about bakelite!! You were so kind answering my bonanzle questions on those napkin rings. I will definitely check back here soon. Thanx again Ellen THISnTHAT on Bonanzle
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The Etiquette of Testing & Alternate Methods for Testing Bakelite
It doesn't belong to you....it might not be Bakelite......what if it's not and you ruin it?
Quite a number of years ago, at an antique show where I was a dealer, I caught a young couple armed with a disposable cigarette lighter that was fired up and heating the sharp pointed tip of an antique hat pin out of my inventory. The man had the lighter and the hat pin and the woman was standing next to him holding up a not-inexpensive 1920's celluloid and rhinestone flapper bracelet, encouraging him to poke the hot pin into the celluloid - on the outside, no less. Not only were they risking a piece of celluloid exploding into flames in their hands, they had already damaged one piece of merchandise that did not belong to them and were about to destroy another.So, that should pretty much say explain the etiquette of testing. First and foremost - do not ever under any circumstances do a hot pin test on any item for any reason. Never. Ever. Ever. Let me say that again: DO NOT DO A HOT PIN TEST! Yes, I'm screaming!
Further, do not ever do any test without the approval of the owner of the merchandise. It's rude and inappropriate under any and all circumstances!
And, perhaps even more importantly, make yourself aware of the price of the item you are about to test before you consider doing one because in the event that you have made a bad choice of merchandise to test and end up doing damage to that merchandise, be prepared to pay for it without asking for a discount or trying to pretend that the damage was anyone's fault except yours.I've been the unfortunate victim of many "stealth" testing failures by over-zealous and poorly informed people over the years. Please do not do "stealth" testing. Again: it is inappropriate, unprofessional and just downright rude. After all, the merchdise doesn't belong to you. What are you thinking?
Any method "worth it's salt" does not damage real Bakelite but if you have made a mistake in your visual evaluation you may do serious damage to the item. To anyone who is experienced at Bakelite testing and identification, it may be hard to remember how difficult it can be for someone who is really "new" to Bakelite and possibly even new to collecting in general. After years and years of being an antique show vendor, I've seen an awful lot of crazy stuff.
So, now, let's try to understand about what you are seeing when you test a material to see if it's Bakelite.
First, it should be mentioned that it's always a good idea to take a damp cloth and wipe off the area you are planning to test to remove any dirt. Then, when you proceed to the testing, you should understand that what you are getting with an appropriate test is the removal of patina. The patina is yellowish in color and that is how you know you have Bakelite - your testing medium removes some of the patina. The patina is yellow. Viola!
The "usual methods" are performed with products that people are very accustomed to trusting are Simichrome, Novus Plastic Polish #2 (not #1 or #3 - they do not work for testing purpose), Maas and other metal polishes, and some household chemicals that I will not mention any more because their formulas are no longer appropriate for testing.
That said, let us now explore some alternate methods of testing. It is always a good idea to test a place twice with clean q-tip and fresh testing product to be sure you have not just gotten excess dirt. Also, it's good to note here that some of the fakelite jewelry coming in from SE Asia has been treated with some chemicals to make show a false positive result that will eventually be removed with repeated testing and will not return as patina on authentic Bakelite will.
Here are a few things that you can use that you may never have considered. Where I live it's not possible to purchase Simichrome or Novus in any local stores that I'm aware of. However, I can buy Wright's Silver Cream and numerous other gentle metal polishes in various variety stores, discount houses, drug stores and even the grocery store. Wrights is a favorite of mine because it's very, very gentle. Do not purchase the Wright's Polish in a bottle - it's too dark a color. Get the Cream in a jar.
There are a few other things that you can use but I would prefer not to list them here out of fear that someone might see them and say "WOW - I didn't know you could use ___________ (fill in the blank) to test for Bakelite" and never actually read the caveats that need to be attached to these other testing methods.
Because I've got a lot of experience with vintage plastics I felt that it was safe for me to test the other products on known Bakelite pieces. The point is that I used gentle touches and products that are mildly abrasive and they returned the same results for me that I got with the use of the know, accepted methods.
Another point is that it seems to me that there is way too much emphasis placed on "The Smell Test" and "The Hot Water" test. People who have never smelled real Bakelite might smell something "chemical" and think that they have a "BINGO!", rush out to sell to someone else who is equally new at the identification of Bakelite something that is actually something else made of chemicals that is shiny and plastic-like. The smell test is only as good as the education of the nose that is performing it and I personally do not recommend that anyone with out extensive knowledge and experience with Bakelite depend solely on that method of testing.
Great Books on Bakelite & Vintage Designer Jewelry
Highly recommended reading.
A picture is worth a thousand words. A collection of books relating to your area of collecting interest will pay you back over and over for your investment. I've never met a collecting book that did not make me money in my business and save me aggravation in my collecting!
The Bakelite Collection by Matthew L. Burkholz
Matthew is one of the premier dealers of vintage B more...0 points
Bakelite Pins by Karima Parry
Karima's books are all fabulous. The more of these more...0 points
Bakelite Bangle: Price & Identification Guide by Karima Parry
New and Vintage Bakelite bangles are pictured - bo more...0 points
The Bakelite Jewelry Book by Corinne Davidov
This one has been in my library for years and it's more...0 points
Shultz Bakelite Jewelry (Schiffer Book for Collectors) by Karima Parry
Schultz Bakelite - relatively new in the world of more...0 points
Bakelite Jewelry: Good * Better * Best by Donna Wasserstrom
Another great long-standing favorite. The Good*Bet more...0 points
European Designer Jewelry/a Schiffer Book for Collectors (Design) by Ginger Moro
A MUST HAVE TITLE! Real serious research went into more...0 points
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Or at least SOME people's idea of what Bakelite is....
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