Vyvanse: 10 Tips for ADD/ADHD

1 - I can do better 2 - Jury's out 3 - Pretty darn good 4 - Splendiferous 5 - Awesometastic by 1 person | Log in to rate

Ranked #128 in Health, #3,806 overall

Vyvanse: 10 Tips for Easy Adjustment

Every new ADD/ADHD medication needs some time in the field to fully understand the metabolic patterns, the way it works best. Links for several previous posts on Vyvanse follow, and in this lens you will find a simple summary of those notes.

10 Tips for Easy Vyvanse Adjustment

First: Precise Solutions for ADHD Medications Sign up for this complimentary summary of the problems and specific solutions-this link works

Notes on Finding the Correct Top of the Dosage The top is most important to measure. 

Notes on Vyvanse soon after starting to use it. 

Tips on Vyvanse after understanding more on how to adjust it.

Specific Vyvanse Ultratips for very low dosing strategies in sensitive individuals.

Notes on Why Protein Breakfast?

CorePsych Radio Live Thursdays

Dr Charles Parker: YouTube Short Video Explanations

Info on Intuniv with Vyvanse

Vyvanse Tips: Vyvanse is a new medication for ADD, and shows considerable clinical effectiveness, safety, and fewer side effects 

With a little bit of attention to dosing and duration of effectiveness Vyvanse can prove an excellent new alternative to other stimulant medications.

Vyvanse 10 Tips for Dosing Adjustment, With Your Doctor's Approval: Remember New Doses - Now in 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70mg

These suggestions are posted to provide fresh information on dosing details and some interesting attributes of Vyvanse.
`1. Always start lower than expected, and go slower than usual.
`2. Vyvanse is a prodrug with a slow and forgiving delivery process: Rare AM agitation [see below], and often: no emotional drop in the PM [see below], - and, interestingly, often less agitation than Adderall.
`3. Clinical experience shows that it lasts longer as a single morning dose than any of the oral current stimulant medications. Shoot for 12-14 hr Duration of Effectiveness [DOE] carefully - at least 1 week between increases.
`4. The different prodrug delivery system provides a longer duration of effectiveness, with no need for a PM augmentation dose to complete homework or home chores. The "Bewitching Hours [from 4-8PM]," with few exceptions, are covered with that single AM dose.
`5. Methamphetamine addicts "don't like it" - as carefully studied and measured on a 29 point "likability scale." Because it is a "prodrug" and the release so measured, the immediate peak of plasma concentration is dramatically changed, even with an IV injection. This study demonstrates an excellent safety outcome, not previously reported with any stimulant in any package insert, and suggests a considerable disinclination for abuse.
`6. Start at the lower dose: 20mg which roughly equals Adderall XR 5 mg. They may have been on higher doses, even 40 mg of the Adderall XR, but go low and slow with the Vyvanse start, as it appears you will often need less to achieve remission from symptoms. The dose equivalences from the forced dose titration studies are often simply too much, and if they create a problem for that specific patient they may not wish to revisit this excellent medication.
`7. If the duration of effectiveness [DOE] is no longer effective at about 2-3 PM, the dose is one click too low. Move up to the next dose. 1 week is often enough to tell the DOE, 2 weeks you will be more sure regarding the DOE consistency.
`8. The duration of effectiveness [DOE] objective is 12-14 hrs, and most achieve that mark. Vyvanse has a surprisingly consistent run through the day, and recent studies show that optimum dose, reached in 5 weeks is maintained for 1 year... adjustments are rarely necessary.
`9. All psych meds are better tolerated and more effective with a protein breakfast,- please review my breakfast posts linked above. Proteins provide neurotransmitter precursors.
`10. For the Ultra Sensitive: [These suggestions apply for those who are unusually sensitive to medications, especially those young children who the treatment team feels will not tolerate new meds well - autism, Asperger's, brain injury, metabolic challenges, and the very young]. See the list here below:

The Ultra Tips for the Most Medication Sensitive
`a. Take the Vyvanse capsule, most often at the lowest dose, 20mg, break it 1/2 and pour the powdered contents into 2 oz of water in a measuring cup. Throw away the gelatin capsule.
`b. Stir, and don't worry about the small amount of material at the bottom.
`c. Give 1 oz in the AM, then put the other into the refrigerator, warn others not to drink it, - and if there is a concern for safety, throw it the other 1 oz away. No studies done on the reliability of this process or the efficacy of the drug in the refrigerator, it is off-label, yet patients are telling me this works easily and well for them.
`d. Give the other 1 oz the next AM.
`e. For very sensitive kids: take this plan one step further, and pour the 20 mg capsule powder into 4 oz of water, then spread the dosage of the next four days, giving essentially 5 mg/day - often these people do go up to 1/2 cap. [I have several patients, including one 45 yo adult [off label] engineer with brain injury and metabolic problems, who takes only 1/4 of the 30mg, and the DOE is a perfect 14 hrs. With ADD for many years, and significant sensitivity to medications he is very pleased with this unusually small dosage.
`f. No, you don't have to use water, OJ or apple juice will do. Acidic medium and variable transit times are not an issue for Vyvanse.
`g. No, there is no Vyvanse taste problem with touchy, taste sensitive folk, though I'm sure an exception exists out there, I haven't seen it, nor heard it reported from colleagues.
`h. Always check for protein breakfast. Protein is an essential precursor for neurotransmitters. Sorry to repeat, but we often have to say this more than once in the office.

Vyvanse and ADHD Videos 

Let's review any options

Much discussion about these meds, so let's make a single place to talk specifically about Vyvanse

Runtime:
views
Comments:


CorePsych: Introduction

Runtime: 313
643 views
5 Comments:

curated content from YouTube

CorePsychBlog: Useful neuroscience topics that connect the body and the mind 

Contemporary psychiatric evidence from SPECT to molecular physiology

Brain and body function mirror one another. Brain dysfunction often swims downstream from significantly overlooked metabolic, hormonal and nutritional challenges... and psych meds don't correct metabolic problems.

Loading Fetching RSS feed... please stand by

Blog Posts from Google 

Vyvanse comments

Vyvanse Tips
Opinions - Vyvanse and Dexedrine - Drugs Forum
Kitty has been swamped with exams and decided to go on a vyvanse and dexedrine binge last week and this week. Kitty is in a bad state of mind so stimulants aggravate insomnia. Last week she was awake for 48 hours straight and this week .... A quick question: Was Kitty ever diagnosed with any form of anxiety disorder along with her ADD/ADHD. If not SWIM would suggest that this be looked into and at least have something effective prescribed for sleep so that there is some ...
Vyvanse Side Effects - ADD Forums - Attention Deficit ...
Stimulants (such as vyvanse) will make existing anxiety worse. They can also make blood pressure issues worse, which is why someone with heart problems or chronic high blood pressure may want to avoid a stimulant drug. Speak to your doctor about it, .... While stims can mimic many of th symptoms of anxiety, and thus make one feel more anxious, there are a significant numer of ADDers that are anxious due to the chaos untreated Add/ADHD brings to their lives. ...
Jessica's Comments - ADDer World Anything and Everything ADHD
When went to my doctor, I coud tell he was irritated at me for not makng my mind up betwen Vyvanse and Adderral. I decided to tick with adderrall. Vyvanse was great while on vacation. At work, I so many unfiished projects by the end of ... I was diagnosed with ADHD about 12 years ago. In the beginning, I did not have good luck with any stimulant medication so I ended up going the holistic route taking natural supplements. For many years, I stuck with natural methods and ...
List of drugs for ADHD – Read before proceeding « Zombie
The List stimulatingDrugs for ADHD are: Long Acting Stimulants: Ritalin LA, Adderall XR, Focalin XR, Metadate CD, Daytrana, Concerta, Vyvanse, etc. Short-acting stimulants: Ritalin, Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Methylin ER, etc. The list is the most common non-stimulant ADHD drug Strattera. Ok, now that you have the list of drugs for ADD and ADHD suffer, take me straight to the point and say bizarre effects that these drugs can be transmitted to your loveChild. ...

New Del.icio.us bookmarks 

Connections make life easier

What's your experience with Vyvanse? 

Doesn't matter if you are a doc or a client, please vote!

My experience with Vyvanse has been excellent - let's see what others are saying:

Loading poll. Please Wait...

Vyvanse Experience 

Dosing pattern recognition

All stimulants need some care with dosing, so what is your experience?

A User's Guide to the Brain: Perception, Attention, and the Four Theaters of the Brain by John J. Ratey

A User's Guide to the Brain: Perception, Attention, and the Four Theaters of the Brain by John J. Ratey

John Ratey, bestselling author and clinical profes more...0 points

User's Guide to Brain-Boosting Supplements: Learn About the Vitamins and Other Nutrients That Can Boost Your Memory and End Mental Fuzziness (User's Guide) by James J. Gormley, Shari Lieberman

User's Guide to Brain-Boosting Supplements: Learn About the Vitamins and Other Nutrients That Can Boost Your Memory and End Mental Fuzziness (User's Guide) by James J. Gormley, Shari Lieberman

In the "User's Guide to Brain-Boosting Supple more...0 points

Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain by John J. Ratey

Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain by John J. Ratey

A groundbreaking and fascinating investigation int more...0 points

The Executive Brain: Frontal Lobes and the Civilized Mind by Elkhonon Goldberg

The Executive Brain: Frontal Lobes and the Civilized Mind by Elkhonon Goldberg

The Executive Brain is the first book to explore i more...0 points

Delivered from Distraction: Getting the Most out of Life with Attention Deficit Disorder by Edward M. Md Hallowell, John J. Md Ratey

Delivered from Distraction: Getting the Most out of Life with Attention Deficit Disorder by Edward M. Md Hallowell, John J. Md Ratey

In 1994, Driven to Distraction sparked a revolutio more...0 points

Healing ADD: The Breakthrough Program That Allows You to See and Heal the 6 Types of ADD by Daniel G. Amen

Healing ADD: The Breakthrough Program That Allows You to See and Heal the 6 Types of ADD by Daniel G. Amen

Using breakthrough diagnostic techniques, Dr. Dani more...0 points

You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid or Crazy?!: The Classic Self-Help Book for Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder by Kate Kelly, Peggy Ramundo

You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid or Crazy?!: The Classic Self-Help Book for Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder by Kate Kelly, Peggy Ramundo

With over a quarter million copies in print, You M more...0 points

Women With Attention Deficit Disorder: Embracing Disorganization at Home and in the Workplace

Women With Attention Deficit Disorder: Embracing Disorganization at Home and in the Workplace

Women with Attention Deficit Disorder addresses th more...0 points

ADD in The Workplace: Choices, Changes, and Challenges by Kathleen G. Nadeau

ADD in The Workplace: Choices, Changes, and Challenges by Kathleen G. Nadeau

It's one thing to deal with attention deficit diso more...0 points

Colleges for Students with Learning Disibilities or ADD by Peterson's

Colleges for Students with Learning Disibilities or ADD by Peterson's

This guide features comprehensive profiles of LD p more...0 points

ADD and the College Student: A Guide for High School and College Students with Attention Deficit Disorder

ADD and the College Student: A Guide for High School and College Students with Attention Deficit Disorder

At once reassuring and brimming with practical inf more...0 points

Survival Guide for College Students With Add or Ld by Kathleen G. Nadeau

Survival Guide for College Students With Add or Ld by Kathleen G. Nadeau

Chesapeake Psychological Services, Maryland. Brief more...0 points

Teenagers with ADD and ADHD: A Guide for Parents and Professionals by Chris A. Zeigler Dendy

Teenagers with ADD and ADHD: A Guide for Parents and Professionals by Chris A. Zeigler Dendy

(2006 ForeWord Magazine Book of the Year Award, Br more...0 points

Driven To Distraction : Recognizing and Coping with Attention Deficit Disorder from Childhood Through Adulthood by Edward M. Hallowell, John J. Ratey

Driven To Distraction : Recognizing and Coping with Attention Deficit Disorder from Childhood Through Adulthood by Edward M. Hallowell, John J. Ratey

Through vivid stories of the experiences of their more...0 points

Is It You, Me, or Adult A.D.D.? Stopping the Roller Coaster When Someone You Love Has Attention Deficit Disorder by Gina Pera

Is It You, Me, or Adult A.D.D.? Stopping the Roller Coaster When Someone You Love Has Attention Deficit Disorder by Gina Pera

The science has been clear since 1994, when Adult more...0 points

Reader Feedback 

submit
  • Reply
    Pearlean Pearlean Dec 25, 2009 @ 8:58 pm
    just started 11yr old on Vyvanse. His stomach hurts alittle, but his lips are burning and he has small bumps developing around mouth. Is this normal? If so, what can i do to ease the side effects?
  • Reply
    work1282 work1282 Dec 12, 2009 @ 8:01 am
    I am a teacher, but I'm posting as a mother. I just placed my 8 year old daughter on 20 mg ov Vyvanse. Today is the fifth day. She's still experiencing headaches, sleeplessness at night, and stomachaches most of the day. I know the sleeplessness will be a problem for a long while, as I have an older daughter who has taken meds for several years. But do the stomachache and headache symptoms subside soon?
  • Reply
    DrParker DrParker Dec 19, 2009 @ 5:51 am
    work1282: When you have someone starting with the lowest dose of Vyvanse still having symptoms of too much [insomnia, headaches, stomachaches] two interventions to consider: 1 lower the dose by the water titration strategy outlined above in this lens, using 1/2 the dose to start by diluting the dosage. 2. Make sure she takes it with a protein breakfast -*after* that protein breakfast, outlined on my blog with the link at the very top of this lens - Best wishes! cp
  • Reply
    Nurse Bosse Nurse Bosse Nov 25, 2009 @ 8:56 am
    I am a middle school nurse and have a student that takes his Vyvanse upon arrival to school. How quickly should the effects of the medication be anticipated?
  • Reply
    DrParker DrParker Nov 25, 2009 @ 9:04 pm
    Nurse, Should only be about 30-45 min, no prob. If longer than that it could be either too little, but also can be actually too much, both needing a run back to the doc.
    cp
  • Load More

by DrParker

Child, Adolescent and Adult Psychiatrist40 years of clinical practice including functional brain imaging with SPECT, and metabolic/cellular laboratory... (more)

Explore related pages

Create a Lens!