Breeding and Training Warmblood Horses

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Lost World Farm - Discover Enduring Excellence - Quality Warmblood Sport Horses

Lost World Farm is the home of the Dutch Warmblood breeding stallion, Patrick, his offspring, mares, and several other horses for sale, training, and competition. We breed, train, sell and show Warmblood Horses.

I made this lens to provide information about breeding and training warmblood horses based on experiences I have had over the last ten years. I want to help others by sharing information and resources. There are a lot of books and ideas available about breeding horses, but most are about throughbreds and are written by vets. Breeding warmblood horses has some importantant differences.

Europe has been the dominate source for obtaining quality warmbloods, but there are several major American breeders who are succeeding in becoming a respected source also. We need more. Our goal is to have our Olympic and international competition horses bred in the U.S. not imported from Europe. USA riders on USA horses.

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Starting With a Stallion 

Warmblood Horse Breeding - Part I

When I bought my stallion, Patrick, seven years ago, I knew nothing about breeding stallions. I had bred a mare that I owned a few years earlier to see if I liked breeding mares and raising foals. I liked it even though I did a lot of things wrong, (I always learn more from my mistakes!). So I decided to try and do things the "right" way. To me the "right" way is the responsible way - breed an approved stallion to an approved mare that complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, and take the foal to an inspection and get registration papers. I went to Holland to import a stallion. Then I found some mares that were already approved in the same breed registry as my stallion. That is the "right" way as far as producing a quality foal, but what about the pure business side of this? Eventually I want some income from this venture, right?

The first step is marketing the stallion. He is the most profitable side of this business - or so everyone told me. Using artificial insemination (A.I.) you can breed 100's of mares a year. Yes, you can, but you won't! Not if you are breeding warmblood horses. Some of the top stallions in Europe have those kind of numbers, but very few in the U.S. do. In fact, from what I have been able to to observe the number is less than 100, less than 50 even, and more frequently less than 20! The costs involved in marketing and promoting the stallion and his resulting foals usually exceeds the stud fees the stallion brings in for the first several years. If the offspring are promoted well and they perform well, more breedings will come. It is what the stallion produces, not what he does that is important to prospective breeders.

Patrick at a Jumping Competition

More Information about Patrick and Lost World Farms 

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Lost World Farm Blog
My Blog on breeding and training warmblood sporthorses
Lost World Farms
The main website of Lost World Farm that features my Dutch Warmblood stallion, Patrick, his offspring, and the farms.
Importing a Warmblood Stallion
My lens about how I found and imported Patrick, my Dutch Warmblood Stallion.
A Dutch Warmblood Stallion
A blog from Patrick's point of view.
My Dutch Warmblood Stallion
My lens all about Patrick, from importing, stallion inspection, and breeding to showing and marketing.
Successful Foal Raising
A lens that describes raising a foal from birth to getting the 3 year old ready to work under saddle.

Breed Quality Mares 

Warmblood Horse Breeding - Part II

The mare is 50% of the breeding equation. Some people think that they have even more influence than that, but the study of genetics says that the male and female each contribute 50%. Some traits are dominant, so if you want to get really scientific you could study the genetic make up of each horse and be more accurate. Certain traits show up often, so those can be evaluated. My stallion produces mainly grey offspring because the grey color gene is dominant. His friendly, gentle, and kind personality frequently shows up also, I don't know if anyone knows if that is dominant, but his offspring would indicate that it is.

The mare should have papers from one of the recognized warmblood registries and be approved for breeding in at least one or eligible for approval. The approval process ensures that her conformation, gaits, and overall impression as a breeding horse has been accepted by a qualified judge in the breed registry. For more information about these registries see the World Breeding Federation of Sport Horses.

Another important thing to consider is her disposition. Be very careful about breeding a mare with bad, nasty, or dangerous behavior. Not only will you have to be handling her a lot, but she could pass this behavior on to the foal. (Unless you breed her to my stallion ;>)

Finally when choosing the stallion to breed to your mare, look for one that will strengthen her weaknesses. Look at her with a critical eye and see what could be improved upon. Could her neck be a little longer? Would you like for her to be more uphill? Find a stallion that has what you would like to improve. There is no guarantee that the foal will turn out exactly like you envision, but you have no chance of it if you don't at least try to match up a stallion and mare that will compliment each other.

A quality stallion + a quality mare = a quality foal!

Check out this video showing birth of a foal. 

This video could have been my mare. If you want to see what a normal, attended, partially assisted foal birth looks like - look at this. Note: sometimes mares with larger foals need a little assistance as is demontrated here.

Birth of a Foal

Filly Foal 'Greenacres King's Ransom 'born May 5th 2007 at 11.40 pm

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The Offspring 

Warmblood Horse Breeding - Part III

A mare will only produce one foal a year (you don't want twins!). This foal is rarely sold in the first three years, unless the stallion has established a track record of successful offspring and someone wants to buy one of his younger colts or fillies as a prospect. For an idea of what it takes to raise a foal see Successful Foal Raising. Most people want a horse that is already started under saddle and preferably also done some successful showing. Once several of these offspring start becoming successful it helps to sell the younger ones and the prices will also increase, but this takes at least five years depending on how many foals were produced during those first years.

The stallion can produce 100's of offspring a year. If you get mares from other breeders to breed to your stallion it increases the chances and opportunities for marketing the offspring and stallion. Some of the breeders will be breeding for a foal for their personal use. If they eventually show that offspring successfully, it will help promote your business. If they do nothing with it or worse, your business could suffer. The best scenario is that you breed lots of quality mares to your quality stallion and produce quality offspring that are successfully trained and become successful in their careers. Unfortunately this is not completely under your control if you breed to outside mares. You can only try to educate and offer help or other services to the breeders in hopes that they will do what is right for the horse.

So I've been doing this for five years now and I am just starting to be able to promote the offspring and I am pleased with what Patrick is producing. I think that people are going to want his offspring and so I am going to continue and have actually decided to invest in more mares so that I will have more offspring to market in the future.

See Patrick's offspring for sale on Equine.com

Paristar at Inspection 

August 2008 ISR/Oldenburg Inspection

Filly by Patrick out of Starbound at inspection - she scored 8.1 - a Premium Foal!
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Why Aren't More U.S. Bred Horses Competing in the International Competitions? 

How Can the U.S. Better Promote U.S. Bred Horses?

Why do most of our top riders choose to go to Europe to purchase their horses? Do they really breed better horses?

Are U.S. breeders producing quality horses for international competition?

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Yes, riders need to look at U.S. bred horses - they are as good as the ones in Europe.

LindaW says:

Many of the breed inspectors from Europe are commenting on the high quality of U.S. bred horses. We need better training of our young horses so that they can demonstrate their abilities and attract the professional riders.

No, U.S. bred horses do not live up to the standard set by the European breeders.

 
 
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Warmblood Baby Pictures 

Foals by Patrick

These are the beautiful colts and fillies whose sire is the 1997 Dutch Warmblood stallion, Patrick.

Offer More Services to Breeders and Clients 

Warmblood Horse Breeding - Part IV

Maybe I should have done this earlier, but my farm wasn't big enough. I bought a bigger one and hired more people because I discovered that it is not profitable to be a small breeder. I need to expand and offer more services to the people that breed to Patrick. Many mare owners need a place to keep their mare as her pregnancy progresses. Most show barns and boarding facilities don't want pregnant mares or foals. Not all people who own a nice warmblood mare that they want to breed have their own farm, so I am providing a place for them. I can deliver the foal, provide a safe place for the mare and foal to live, start halter training with the foal and several other basic lessons necessary to ensure that the owner can safely handle her foal. I can also keep the weanlings, yearlings, etc., continue necessary training, and finally get them started under saddle.

We are also offering boarding and training with a hunter/jumper trainer and a dressage trainer. We have indoor arenas, outdoor arenas, lots of stalls, an observation room, and a trail around the property. We go to shows and offer services to our boarders at the show while promoting the stallion and his offspring at the same time. We will be holding clinics and inspections for further education for our clients.

Many horse people have busy schedules and a limited amount of time to spend with their horses. Whether they are interested in breeding their mare, raising a young horse, learning to ride, or showing their horse, we want to offer them services that will make the time they have to spend with their horses more fun and enjoyable.

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Other Sources of Income 

Warmblood Horse Breeding - Part V

The business of breeding warmblood horses is not easy and does not produce quick or even high amounts of income. Most of us have to find additional services and businesses just to stay afloat (someone willing to fund you for a few years really helps, also). It takes tenacity and patience and a huge love and appreciation for the warmblood horse. Confidence in yourself and your horses is essesential to getting others to believe in what you are producing. I recently joined Equestrian Professional website because it offers so much information about the equestrian business, marketing, attracting and keeping customers, and so many other things that I had not considered. I think the articles and information I have access to are worth much more than the price of the membership. This site is a great source for information about horse business.

To supplement our income I have started looking to the internet for marketing our horses and farm, but I am also looking at ways to make money online marketing horse related products and services. More and more people are doing their shopping, learning, and sales on the internet - why not use it?

For those who have the place and desire to take care of their own mare and foal, I have been considering another product. I get lots of questions about breeding, foaling, breed registries, breed inspections, choosing a stallion, training young horses, etc. So I was thinking of writing a book answering all these questions about warmblood horse breeding from a the point of view of a stallion and mare owner. There are several books by vets about breeding, but a lot of them are aimed at the Throughbred horses and while the basics are similiar or the same, there are some differences. I am not a vet, nor would I want to present information that is already well covered by vets about breeding horses, in fact, I would be recommending some of their books. I just want to help the new breeder get a good idea of what they are getting into if they want to breed warmblood horses. So I decided to take a poll. Check out the poll below and let me know if you think this would be something you would like to see and if you would buy it. I already have an outline and could produce it fairly quickly if there were enough interest - or maybe I'll do it anyway and give it away to people who breed to Patrick.

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A Book about Breeding Warmblood Horses 

After reading about The Business of Breeding Warmblood Horses in the article above, please give me your opinion about whether or not you think I should write the book.

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Do you have you any experience breeding horses? 

Would you like to breed a horse or horses?

If you have experience breeding horses, please share any information you think other people should know.

If you would like to breed, what additional information would you want to see?

Thanks for sharing!

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Kathryn Seiler wrote

I saw a Andalusian Dutch Warmblood Cross last summer in Wisconsin and have hunted for one ever since. It was awesome. I am looking for a gelding, will only use it for pleasure and trail riding western. I am 60 and have had horses all my life but not since 1998. This is a big step...have a torn rotator cuff that can't be fixed but know I can ride again. If you know of a wonderful horse something like this and it is reasonable let me know...502-206-8539

Reply Posted February 21, 2009

LindaW wrote...

in reply to Susan52 Thank you for visiting my lens - I'm glad you enjoyed it.

ReplyPosted February 06, 2009

LindaW wrote...

in reply to ottoblotto Thank you!.

ReplyPosted February 06, 2009

Susan52 wrote...

I don't have experience at all with horses, but I certainly enjoyed this informative and very well-done lens. Blessings!

ReplyPosted February 06, 2009

ottoblotto wrote...

Excellent work. 5*

ReplyPosted February 05, 2009

LindaW wrote...

in reply to ArtisticHorse Thanks for the encouragement. The lenses that I am working on will be a start on the book. I have an outline! Loved your story about Rene!

ReplyPosted February 05, 2009

LindaW wrote...

in reply to Julestar Thank you so much! Sorry I took so long to reply - I have returned after an extended absence and am trying to catch up.

ReplyPosted February 05, 2009

LindaW wrote...

in reply to Portable_eBay Thank you for visiting my lens - I'm glad you liked it.

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Portable_eBay wrote...

I like horses. As a kid I always read and reread The Black Stallion. Nice Lens.

ReplyPosted February 05, 2009

Julestar wrote...

This is an excellent lens! You are really good at these lens' such great information too

ReplyPosted June 12, 2008

ArtisticHorse wrote...

Wonderful lens. I think the idea of a book written by a breeder as apposed to a vet is an awesome idea. Your point of view would be refreshing and most likely told in terms a layman could understand. Go for it!!

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Horse Books, Games, and Treats 

For breeding and training horses

These are some books and other items I have found on Amazon that I have purchased myself.

Storey's Guide to Raising Horses: Breeding/Care/Facilities

This book is a great book for all the basics.

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Tug of War: Classical Versus "Modern" Dressage: Why Classical Training Works and How Incorrect Riding Negatively Affects Horses' Health

Not just for Dressage riders - all horse trainers and riders could benefit by reading this book - and it's short!

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Horse Life

I bought this for my grandson and he loves it. I like that it teaches kids to take care of the horse before they play with it.

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Stud Muffins Horse Treats - 50 Pack

The stallion loves them, but so do the mares and geldings!

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Horse Amour Golden Delidious Apple Bit Wipes

These helps encourage chewing on the bit.

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What's Your Opinion on Horse Racing? - ASPCA Online Community
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