Will you join the ebay boycott? a debate run by bdkz
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HERE'S WHAT I THINK
Will you join the ebay boycott?
I already did!
On Feb. 20th, 2008 ebay plans to launch their new fee schedule and sellers are mad. ebay plans to raise Final Value Fees, put holds on PayPal payments and not allow sellers to leave negative feedback for buyers.
I abandoned my ebay store years ago because of the fees. I just felt that ebay was more work and less profit. To me ebay caterers to the high volume sellers leaving the mom and pop stores to close up shop and move elsewhere.
I can remember back in 1999 when ebay was an awesome place to find rare Pop Culture treasures. Now it's just littered with HDTVs, laptop computers, and crap. It takes a savvy buyer to weed through all the garbage.
On Feb. 18th-25th a group of dedicated sellers planned a boycott of ebay. It's well publicized on the ebay forums to join the "No Sales Pledge". Did you join in?
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Fetching blurbs now... please stand byYes, ebay is charging way to much for fees and their new feedback policy is unfair!
Colorfulscene says:
I stopped selling on ebay earlier this year, now I only sell things on there that can get a higher dollar amount. I think ebay is sinking their own boat. I love where I am now, and many others have started selling there as well. Check out my lens (s) for more info. PS- It is all FREE to sell.
Posted May 14, 2008
Deb says:
Yes, and we have created a new forum at http://fairshake.freeforums.org.
It's the new feedback and DSRs that were the final straw for me.
Posted April 24, 2008
Rolf says:
http://www.euronma.com is a good alternative to eBay. It offers free classified ads. It's mainly for the European market though.
Posted April 20, 2008
WhippetTalk says:
I dumped my Ebay account a month ago only being with them for about one month. I was losing money because of all the stupid little fees. I ended up starting my own auction website with NO FEES for anyone who wants to post their stuff. I'm tired of the big guys pushing us little guys around.
Posted April 19, 2008
Amanda_Blue says:
I have always felt annoyed by Ebay, I suppose a psychiatrist could explain why, so I am already boycotting Ebay, and shall continue to do so.
Posted April 19, 2008
Miss Michelle says:
The new feedback policy is absolutely unacceptable. This will open sellers up to fraud like we've never seen before. The fact that non-paying bidders will be able to trash a seller and the seller just has to suck it up is OUTRAGEOUS. The fact that DSR ratings can get your paypal funds held for 21 days is outrageous as well.
I know that ebay thinks that it will just force the small-time sellers out but they aren't seeing the whole picture. I have personally seen platinum and titanium sellers leaving in droves, too. At this point, they can do well just paying those fees in advertising since the fees have doubled (in most areas.)
Eventually, this WILL have an effect on them. They can keep the stiff upper lip as long as they want but this was a mistake of monumental proportions.
I've been with ebay since the 90's and have never complained about the fees and changes but this one had me packing up for good.
The feedback issue is what did it for me. I won't be told to accept fraud and non - payment and have my business destroyed by ruthless buyers.
Take the money you would spend on ebay fees and turn that into advertising. If you are honest and provide good service your products can make it elsewhere and depending on what you sell, you can open up a store at Amazon for 60$ flat fee a month for ALL sorts of products.
tootaloo ebay!
Posted April 14, 2008
Rosie the Riveter says:
Yeah, I'm on board. eBay may not affect my own little business (or it may, things seem to change every day)... and since I no longer agree with the business plan eBay seems to be pursuing, I'm taking my toys and playing in another sandbox.
It's gonna be an interesting summer, and I for one will be watching those who said they're staying at eBay... when they get arbitrary negs and can't do anything about them, when their listings get hidden, when eBay suspends them for no good reason, we'll see how they feel. eBay has gotten too big for its britches... eBay seems to be trying to be the WalMart of the internet, (they treat their sellers about as "good" as WalMart treats its employees, and there's a similar "cult" feeling to those who support 'em despite this disconnect)...so I'm voting with my feet.
Posted April 13, 2008
ree says:
Not boycotting, just plain quitting eBay.
eBay is on it's way out as far as being an "auction" site. They know what they're doing and they're NOT going to change or stop. They could care less about their members...both sellers and buyers.
They have a reason for making the changes they're making and it will all be out soon enough. But, by then they wont be the same ebay (auction site)
Posted April 02, 2008
cashelephant says:
I just don't see ebay as a money making site like I did a few years ago. The fun has gone out of it. I joined a great networking community by visiting www.website.ws/cashelephant and have made money far beyond anything I ever made with ebay and there are no added charges to sink into my profits. This one is the real deal. ebay sucks!
Posted March 27, 2008
willy says:
fuck 'em
Posted March 27, 2008
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eBid-Squid says:
Start listing more on alternatives like eBid.net and use google checkout more!
Posted March 24, 2008
GrandmaRose says:
eBay has set up some new procedures for dealing with feedback extortion as an appeasement to sellers who are rightfully angry about the changes to feedback. In the past many sellers have reported feedback extortion to no avail. We'll have to wait and see if eBay starts taking this seriously!
Posted March 24, 2008
eBid says:
Check out eBid.net
Posted March 23, 2008
victorialynn says:
I found WWW.WAGGLEPOP.COM. You have to check it out! It is just like feebay was in the good old days! This is where I will list my auctions. For my handmade items, www.etsy.com.
Posted March 22, 2008
paulasherbsandplants says:
I will not sell on ebay. I started my own website with the fee increases in 2006 and left ebay with the changes in 2008. And I have sympathy for those who are just now leaving as I have my site somewhat established. paulasherbsandplants.com is the best thing I ave ever done.
Terry
Posted March 21, 2008
Stephanie says:
Heck yes.
Posted March 19, 2008
Kirk says:
Hell yes!
Posted March 16, 2008
Dan says:
YES, SCREW EBAY THEY MAKE TONS OF $ AS IT IS THEY DON"T NEED TO START NICKEL AND DIMING US, THATS RIDIULOUS.
Posted March 13, 2008
No way, Monkeybrain! ebay has a right to raise their fees and change the feedback policy.
o-cCcC says:
I must admit they did a big clean up with some Auctions -
but a little too far - it was like a trainie just got out of a meeting and started banning member without mercy for little mistakes. They should not have taken a zero tolorence stand - I lost my long time account, because I had Software in the Other Software Section and such - Only one Section was good enough for my item the operator said - and I was Perminatly banned.
:( - What the ?
( I was making a living here, then...nothing)
Posted May 03, 2008
David_Morris says:
I have to admit that eBay are pricks sometimes due to the fact that they can do what they want and at one point they witheld over $5000 in my Paypal account (and before you say "Paypal isn't eBay", they're one-in-the-same company) for two months while they investigated the transaction because they had classified it as 'dubious', it still doesn't get away from the fact that eBay got to where they are today for being the best at what they do.
They are a big company and big companies like to make money, if not for themselves, then for their shareholders who placed some inherent belief in the company and bought their stocks.
They do some shitty things sometimes that does put people like myself at an inconvenience sometimes, but when you look at the reason they're doing it - protection for the buyer and seller - you see that they have a good reason and it's not just because they want to be pricks about it.
I'm with you on the fact that it's a little harder to find cute knick-knacks and such because of the enormous influx of garbage on there, but just because of that I'm not going to boycott them.
They have a great system in place that if taken away, would make the modern internet seem a little 'emptier', for want of a better word. Oh, and if you'd like to learn how you can beat roulette and take heaps of money away from online casinos, click here to be taken to my squidoo lens!
Posted March 29, 2008
Renegade-Dream-Builder says:
Ebay is a company. Now you may not like what they are doing but it is within their right to change what ever they want when they want. That is what owning a business is all about. Those who do not change with the times go out with yesterdays trash.
Posted March 21, 2008
safeguard4u says:
I will be saving between $50 to $100 per month with the new fees. the fvf is higher but the listing is lower and the free gallery is saving me money. I am also an ebay affiliate so I am in a position where I can make 50% to 80% of the fvf from ebay.
The no negitive feedback for deadbeat buyers sucks, but I haven't had too many problems with buyers.
Posted March 11, 2008
davewashere says:
The feedback policy is concerning. I think the better plan would be allowing negative feedback but adding a stat that would keep track of each time a person gives negative feedback. I wouldn't want to buy from a seller who has given negative feedback on 75% of their auctions, as that's probably a sign of trouble.
Posted March 10, 2008
BABYKITTY says:
The feedback change stinks! It's all in the buyer's court now and as a seller you just have to take it. Am looking at other places to try. Ebay just got to big for its collective britches and could care less about all the little guys that built it into the giant it is today. It needs to remember that the little guys CAN build someone else up into giant status!
http://basic2proinfo.com
Posted March 07, 2008
ferrari says:
nah.....
Posted March 05, 2008
SteveMNash says:
It's called market forces, etc. So I guess Ebay doesn't need the you guys anymore :-( But that's life, business life anyway!
Posted March 04, 2008
4x4ever says:
It's a free economy - they are free to do whatever the hell they want.
And we, on the other hand are free not to like it and also do whatever the hell we want. Like boycott them for example. Or cancel our accounts. Or cream them on squidoo or any blog known to men.
Making money... while I sleep">
Posted March 03, 2008
KelleyEidem says:
I really do understand how it can make you mad when your middleman jacks up his rates. It sucks.
There's little need to boycott. Just take your business elsewhere where the fees are better.
Google doubled and tripled their prices on me a couple years ago. But a 300% increase times zero is what they got from me because I left lickety-split. I really didn't need them after all.
Thank goodness for squidoo. Sweet!
Squidoo costs me nothing. And I get to put up a PICTURE of what I am selling. (Look over there to your left where it says "The Doctor Who Cures Cancer." hehe The blurb up there in the blue area where the printo is too small to read is from Dr. Robert Atkins. He wrote that it's "A must read for anyone interested in the battle against cancer and AIDS.")
I'm in heaven. It's priceless.
Kelley Eidem
Posted March 02, 2008
ocdgirl2000 says:
yeah they have a right to raise their fees since that is the method they are choosing to eliminate sellers! I mean, what part of "we don't want you here anymore" do you not understand? Ebay is phasing out of the auction business and they want you (and me) to leave! DUHHHHH I am smart enough to not risk whatever I have left of my good feedback ratings to be able to import them elsewhere. The BEST thing you can do to "get even" since that is what most ebay sellers seem to want, is to buy stock or at least list a few things on Amazon!hahahahahaah!!
Posted March 01, 2008
Soren says:
Boycotting ebay is stupid. Even though eBay is the biggest online auction site, there are others. If you do not like the fees and policies, then go somewhere else.
Posted February 26, 2008
Mentor Walter says:
This is free enterprise as we want it. There is freedom for anyone to start a competitor and beat ebay at their own game!
The way to fight is to provide a better alternative.
Posted February 26, 2008
Getalife says:
ocdgirl2000 is pretty close to the money!
I work for a high volume powerseller that trades on eBay, and we have been let in on a few things by the Business Seller Team at eBay that they are going to role out on a trial basis. I cannot tell you exactley what they plan to do, as its all hush hush, but in the next 6-8 months, some categories that have high volume seller in will see a huge difference. They have a masterplan going forward, obviously based on the Amazon Merchant model, that they want to implement, as they want some of their pie back that Amazon has taken from eBay's plate..
Oh and i love the changes...who else can do what eBay does on such a huge scale...two words...market...&...cornered!
Posted February 26, 2008
Getalife says:
Grow up...good honest sellers have nothing to worry about!
Posted February 26, 2008
nadjaiskeniskie says:
eBay can charge/change what they want - it just means I have to be a bit more selective with what products I put on their site.
Posted February 25, 2008
ocdgirl2000 says:
Ebay is phasing out of the auction business and has it's sights on high volume sales of online marketing products. They have grown past what they once were, and are tired of the bickering sellers and buyers. All that behavior is "beneath them" they have "graduated" to the "next level"(besides they don't want to pay more employees to do this!). They aim to direct "certified provider services" to the masses of online store owners who think that ebay has a monopoly on the conglomerated search engines for the retail market.The members of ebay who swallow this "wave of the future" will be allowed to remain in ebay's good graces so long as they purchase the required software and training and allow ebay to have a percentage of all their earnings.If they fail to follow or purchase these EXPENSIVE marketing plans they will be left to fend for themselves, and will be open to attack by the buyers who now have free reign of ebay's new shopping mall.Now that the "detailed" seller ratings are tied to the seller's status as a seller, the buyer will be the one who knocks the sellers off the food chain and they will have no one left to complain about.They will THEN have accountable store owners who sell at retail prices and are protected by ebay's marketing structure, which, of course, they paid dearly for!This is happening as we speak, take a look at the purpose driven activities of the Conference that is being held in Disneyworld ina few weeks. The speakers and class descriptions say it all. The verbiage is repetitive in theme and it almost reads like a book on ...well I won't say it, but when you continuously here the same themes being repeated, it's similar to some propaganda..Yes they do have a right, and yes they will do whatever they want. They always have and they always will. How do you think they got where they are now?
Posted February 25, 2008
Do-Doodle says:
No way. I may not be happy with everything that eBay.co.uk does, but who else can do what they do.
I'm stickin with eBay . . . and maybe folks will tell me when something better comes along.
If you don't like eBay then maybe it's time for you to move on and find something different. You don't have a great deal of choice . . . but the decision is yours.
Be seeing you.
Posted February 25, 2008
berlin101 says:
The sellers have had it too goood over the years by ripping people offf with the fees for postage. I boycotted ebay years ago for this reason.
Posted February 25, 2008
Anonymous says:
Absolutely not - boycotting just hurts the buyers & sellers, and has no real impact on eBay whatsoever. Why could I cut off my nose to spite my face?
Posted February 25, 2008
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