Skip to navigation | Skip to content

Share your knowledge. Make a difference.

Conventional Writing Advice that Didn't Work for Her (or Me Either!)...

1 - I can do better 2 - Jury's out 3 - Pretty darn good 4 - Splendiferous 5 - Awesometastic (by 7 people)   Your rating: 1 - I can do better 2 - Jury's out 3 - Pretty darn good 4 - Splendiferous 5 - Awesometastic

Ranked #1720 in Arts, #34125 overall

Rated G. (Control what you see)

Is Conventional Writing Advice Always Right? Listen to your heart.

 

While searching for advice for writers, I can across the home page of Patricia A. Duffy, who says that when it comes to writing, "Conventional Advice Wouldn't Work for Me. After reading her article, I have to say that basically, she has said pretty much what I would have said, and what I do say, whenever someone asks me.

Created on April 18,2007
Last updated: May 29, 2008

#1: Write every day. 

According to Patricia A. Duffy:

    1) Write every day.

    This piece of advice is repeated in almost every book on how to write. Maybe some people need this sort of discipline, but I would find it counterproductive. Sometimes I write feverishly every day. Sometimes real life intervenes. I have a demanding job and a family. If I believed I had to write every day, even when I absolutely had no time, I'd quickly grow to hate writing and I'd stop doing it. Mostly, I have more ideas than I have time to process, so forcing myself to write is not a problem. And during those periods when real life heats up and I can't write, I don't feel any guilt. Why should I? Writing isn't a religious penance or a health routine. It's something I enjoy.


My response to what she says:

You've heard it preached from the pulpit of every sacred book on writing: WRITE EVERY DAY!!!

Now ask yourself this: What does writing mean to you? Is writing a hobby or a career? How did you answer?

A hobby?

If you think of writing as a hobby, than who cares when you write? No one. If you write as a hobby, than who cares if your writing gets sloppy? No one. If you write as a hobby, than who cares if you ever get published? No one. If you write as a hobby, than by all means writer seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, because you know what? If you are writing because writing is a hobby, no one cares. Why? Because hobby writers write for their own pleasure. If they get published, it's a great big WOO-HOO! for themselves and their family. But very few hobby writers ever get published. Why? Because they are content to post their stories on message boards and web-sites and blogs. They are happy to see their work on the internet. Writing after all is just a hobby to them. They are content with what they do. So, for writers who write as a hobby, it is not important when they write, because their family is not dependent on the writing. Just search on Google for Fan-Fiction. Millions of stories are posted all over the internet, but because they are written by hobby writers, those stories well never be printed in books. They well never be published, but no one cares, not even the writer. So why than does it matter if the hobby writer writes every day?

Let's look at the other side of this story.

Now ask yourself this once again: What does writing mean to you? Is writing a hobby or a career? How did you answer?

A career?

I ask you: What is your day job? Do you wait tables? Drive a school bus? Are you a cashier at the local super market? Maybe you teach high-school geography? Whatever it is that you do for your day job, ask yourself this: How many days do you work each week? A few well say three, some well say four, almost all of you well say five. By law your employer is required to give you at least two days off each week. That's a law. That law is enforced. If an employer asks you to work more than five days a week, they are required to pay you time and a half. That too is a law. Why? Because even the government knows that you can't get the job done if you are not given a day or two of rest. If you work seven days a week, you well run down, wear out and get sloppy. Your work well suffer, because you didn't get a day off.

So, we come back to your answer: Why do you write? Hobby or career?

If you said career, than you know that being a writer is just like every other 9 to 5 job. Nine o clock you sit down at your desk and you start writing. Around noon you take an hour break for lunch. After lunch it's back to your desk to write until five. Five o clock comes around and no matter how compelled you are to keep writing, you put down your pen, turn off the light and don't go back to your desk again until tomorrow morning when nine o clock rolls around again. Like any other job, you take the weekend off. Why? Because for you writing is more than a hobby. For you writing is what puts food on the table. For you writing is what puts clothes on your children. Writing just paid for your teenager's PS3. Writing pays the mortgage. Writing pays the vet bills caused by the recent pet-food recall. You write because writing is your career, your job, your livelihood. For you writing is not a hobby. You can't afford to let you writing get sloppy and you know that, which is why you also know that it is foolish for you or any other writer to think that it is in your best interest to write every day.

And that is why I do not write every day.

Moving on to myth #2...

 

On Writing

Amazon Price: $7.99 (as of 07/26/2008)
List Price: $7.99
Used Price: $3.87

Release Date: 12/31/1969

Avg. Customer Rating: Amazon Rating

Usually ships in 24 hours

#2: Don't Edit Until the First Draft is Done. 

According to Patricia A. Duffy:

    2. Don't Edit Until the First Draft is Done.

    I edit obsessively as I go along. I like rewriting things. I can't imagine another way to write and would be utterly incapable of completing that first draft if I didn't do it this way.

My response to what she says:

This, I think, depends on the writer and what they are writing about at the time. Personally I do not believe in editing as you write, as a general rule. Why? I find that when I am writing, I write better if I don't stop. I have learned to ignore typos and spelling mistakes, to turn a blind eye to bad grammar, and to not listen when my mind says I should go back and re-write what I just wrote. Why? Because if I stop, it creates a speed bump. That speed bump slows me down and causes me to go lose track of what it was I was writing. So I find myself going back to where I had stopped, because I have to re-read what I wrote several times before I can remember where it was I was going with that train of thought. In a since by stopping to edit while I was writing, I have now derailed my writing train, and put it back on a new track, and it just can't get back onto that old track, because the old track for some odd reason is no longer there. On a road, a speed bump just jostles your car a bit and make you slow down, but on a train track, that same little speed bump not only jostles the train, but knocks it off track and sends it flying into the oncoming train on the other track. That speed bump is now a mangled mess of crumpled train cars, which ow must be towed away and tossed into a junk heap. A huge rusted junk heap towering high above your head. The next thing you know you can't write anything at all because all there is is a pile of mangled wreckage. You have hot a writer's block.

So, where are we now? Well, for me, stopping to edit while I'm still writing is the deadliest thing that can happen while I'm writing. Usually, but not always. This is just me though, and as I said, all writers are different.

Moving on...

 

Self-Editing for Fiction Writers, Second Edition: How to Edit Yourself Into Print

Amazon Price: $11.16 (as of 07/26/2008)
List Price: $13.95
Used Price: $7.12

Release Date: 04/13/2004

Avg. Customer Rating: Amazon Rating

Usually ships in 24 hours

#3: Use Note cards or Notebooks to Organize Ideas 

According to Patricia A. Duffy:

    3. Use Note cards or Notebooks to Organize Ideas

    Even the thought of using index cards to organize fiction ideas is almost enough to make me run screaming into traffic. In my mind, these little cards will forever be associated with undergraduate term papers. I don't use notebooks because I hate to write longhand. I do all my writing on the word processor -- even background notes for novels. Actually, I prefer to do background for novels as short stories, even lame short stories with no chance of selling. I see things better that way.

My response to what she says:

As most of you know, I never went to school. I can't identify with term papers because I've never had one, let alone seen one, and I'm not really sure what they are, except that everyone who talks about school talks about term papers too. I'm not sure what an undergraduate is, I'll look it up next time I've got my dictionary at hand. For those who have followed my posts on the net since 1997, you already know that when I joined the internet world, it was my first time typing. I had never used a keyboard before in my life. Likewise, I had also never learned how to spell. I wrote at that time in what I have since been told is a form of a native lingo of my own invention, cause by lack of contact with humans. In 1997, I first I joined the internet, and became an over night celebrity, not because I posted on every forum and chat room I could find, but because people were fascinated by my complete and total lack of any ability to spell. In the years since that time, my fan following grew to a cult status as people set out to teach me how to spell via online forums.

Than came a revelation to the world, that no one had before known: My books, the Twighlight Manor series, several thousand pages, and countless drafts of each, had never seen typewriter, I had written all of them in longhand. The manuscripts where totally written in bright colored notebooks with Lisa Frank art on the covers: thousands of them. Some 40 boxes worth of notebooks, stacked floor to ceiling. Notebooks that I have been writing in since 1978. Thirty years worth of notebooks.

Today, I still write my books in longhand. I still hand write all of my manuscripts in bright colored children's note books. To date, I have only ever written one outline. I have never used index cards. I do not type my manuscripts until after having hand written several drafts. I do not organize my ideas, my ideas flow from my mind at a rapid rate, and I write them as they come. No notes. No note taking. They are not my style. They do not work for me.

Writing Journals on CafePress 

EK's Purple Iris Journal

Blank notebook for writers. Cover art by Wendy C. Allen.

Journal

Price: 9.89

Buy Now

Ek's Willow at Crystal Falls Journal

Blank notebook for writers. Cover art by Wendy C. Allen.

Journal

Price: 12.09

Buy Now

Acting My Age Journal

Blank notebook for writers. Cover art by Wendy C. Allen.

Journal

Price: 9.89

Buy Now

Journal

Blank notebook for writers. Cover art by Wendy C. Allen.

Journal

Price: 9.89

Buy Now

Purple Easter Cross Journal

Blank notebook for writers. Cover art by Wendy C. Allen.

Journal

Price: 9.89

Buy Now

Powered by CafePress

#4: Keep a Story Circulating until it Sells 

And finally we come to:

According to Patricia A. Duffy:

    4. Keep a Story Circulating until it Sells.

    This is another piece of almost universal advice that I don't follow. I tend to select my markets rather carefully. If something is rejected at the market I've thought most probable for it, I will normally only try it on one or two other markets before giving up (or in some cases no other markets). Although there are a lot of magazine markets for speculative short fiction, there are actually relatively few professional markets for speculative short fiction of any given type. I guess my economics training makes me weight the possible benefit (payment for a story) by my subjective evaluation of the odds of being published in that magazine. If the weighted payoff is less than the postage, I put the story in a drawer and work on another one.

My response to what she says:

In some cases, this is true, in others it is not.

Some times I write for copyrighted characters not of my own making. For these stories there is only one publisher that I can legally send the stories to. If they reject the story, than that's it. It can't be sent to anyone else.

More often I write stories of characters of my own invention, and for these, I can choose any publisher I damn well please. I can also choose who I DO NOT want to publish it. Than again I can also choose to do what I usually do, and that is to self publish my stories. That is how I came to own my own publishing house. It is through owning my publishing house that I came to become an editor. Today I am a writer, a publisher, and an editor, because I reserved the right to choose when, where, and to whom I sent my manuscripts too: no one!

Well, that is my take on what Patricia A. Duffy says that when it comes to writing, "Conventional Advice Wouldn't Work for Me.

~~EK

Books for Writers on eBay 

Loading Fetching new data from eBay now... please stand by
eBay

Last 5 Posts From My Writing Blog 

This lens was originally a post from my Writing Blog


Loading Fetching RSS feed... please stand by

Reader Feedback 

ginapharr

Hi Eelkat,
this is very informative lens here, I rated 5 stars for your valuable lens and great information about writing advises.
If you have time, stop by my lens at career search as well,
Thanks!

Posted May 12, 2008

MarilynBB

Interesting advice. Good lens.

I too love England and have been there several times. I even wrote a book about personal growth through travel. Hope you'll visit my lens and see my offer of a free copy of this book.

Posted October 27, 2007

Tiddledeewinks

Good work for writers!

Posted September 09, 2007

Jack2046

Hi Eelkat, this is a good lens on writing. Definitely inpire me with some new ideas. I create my new lens after read this, you may have a look at how to write screenplay

Posted May 30, 2007

BookMama

If you like writing, consider the My-Name-Is-Harry Writing Contest.

I agree that many of those writing rules can lead one to a dead end. Good luck!

Posted April 29, 2007

My Other Lenses For Writers: 

Loading Fetching RSS feed... please stand by
X
EelKat

About EelKat

I love Eels. I love Bobcat. I am a Giant Squid. Thanks for visiting my lens. I have more than 313 other lenses for you to check out. Lots of topics about all of my favorite things. I often talk about Squidoo on my blog, if I like your lens, chances are pretty good that it'll be mentioned over there. If you are ever looking for info about edits, updates, and changes to my lenses, they usually get posted over there, before anywhere else.

I'm a Giant Squid!

My name is Wendy C. Allen a.k.a. EelKat. I am a writer, editor, publisher, artist, doll maker, animal rights activist, costume maker, make-up artist, sale representative, and fashion designer.

I change from Glam to Gothic to Lolita to Punk depending on my current mood. I've been one or the other since the early 1980's, and often all three at once. I write in the Gothic, Horror, and Science Fiction genres. My works include The Twighlight Manor series, it's spin-offs: The Planet Ptarmagin series, and The Crystonite Chronicles. Some of my other writing habits include children's stories, The Adventures of Pink Frog (series), comic books, and the dark retellings of classic folk lore & fairy tales, known as EelKat's Twisted Tales, which include the two upcoming volumes: SHIVER and The Pearl Necklace. I am the owner of The Twighlight Manor Press, which publishes these books.

I love designing my own clothes, and clothes for my dolls, and hope to one day have a fashion line of my own and a little shop in Maine to sell them in. There are no Gothic or Lolita or CosPlay stores around here, I want to change that.

My clothen style includes velvet, capes, empire gowns, gowns with trains, burnoose, shawls, runas, fishnet hose, striped stockings, combat boots, velvet, top-hats, long dresses, ruffled frilly skirts, cosplay, Gothic, Lolita, Victorian, Edwardian, velvet, frockcoats, Alice in Wonderland, vampire fashions, Medival fashions, crilolines & petticoats, eyelash-fringe fabric, sequins, beads, glitter, lace, cloaks, ruffles, broomstick skirts, stripes, plaid, poet blouses, peasant dresses, fairy tale princess gowns, faerie outfits, wizard-look stuff, big hats, bright colored hats, ballet flats, platforms, anything that Dracula would love to wear, and stuff like worn by Jem*, The Holigrams, and The Misfits.

I was dressing like Jem, before Jem was invented.

I love anything made of velvet!

I don't like pants: won't wear them, won't own them.

I the 1980's I wore min-skirts, but as the years have gone by, my dresses and skirts got longer; today my hems sweep the floor and they often have trains. I have one dress that has 7 yards of fabric on the skirt alone, it can be worn with or without hoops.

No, what I'm wearing is not a costume.

Yes, I dress like this every day, all day long, even around the house, when working in the garden, and when shoveling manure out of the barn. Yes I am a farmer.

No, I don't own any "normal" clothes.

No, I can't tell you where I bought them, because I didn't buy them, I sewed them.

No, I can't tell you where to buy the pattern, I didn't buy a pattern I made the pattern. I've been sewing since I was 6 years old when I made my first doll. I made my first ball-gown at age 12. At age 16 I graduated from a 2 year course in fashion design & merchandising. I've spent most of my life studying fashion history and the art of recreating historical clothen from the Gothic periods (1300 - 1500 & 1850 - 1930), and those are the clothes I thus wear.

No I already told you this is not a costume, these are my regular cloths, I don't care if you think this is a costume, it is not, please stop asking me if it is.

I don't like people who think I'm wearing a costume even after been told that I am not.

Yes, I know this looks like a Willy Wonka costume, yes, Johnny Depp inspired it. Yes, I do wear a top hat everywhere I go. No, I repeat this is not a costume.

Yes, I REALLY am making a historical reproduction of Lord Sesshomaru's costume, and yes, I do intend to wear it, fluffy tail, battle armor, and all.

I am owner of The Twighlight Manor Press and Copper Cockeral Cards & Gifts .
On the internet, I am know as EelKat, my alter-ego, the talking black bobcat from Planet Diona (a character from both The Twighlight Manor series & The Planet Ptarmargin series, as well as The Chrystonite Chronicles).

In alphabetical order: I like Alan Rickman, Alice Cooper, Alice in Wonderland, anime, birds, candy, Carl Barks, cartoons, cats, C*C*DeVille, Colombo, comic books, CosPlay, Darkwing Duck, David Bowie, Disney, dogs, Don Rosa, Donald Duck, Dr. Who, dvds, eels, Etiole, fashion, Gothic, haunted houses, horror, ice cream, InuYasha, Jack Sparrow, Johnny Depp, Kieth Laumer, manga, movies, NegaDuck, peacocks, pigeons, Lord Sesshomaru, Prof. Snape, Retief, roosters, sci-fi, Scrooge McDuck, Sir Roderic, Star Trek, Tom Baker, Twighlight Manor, Uncle Scrooge, video games, Vincent Price, Willy Wonka, writing, X-Files, Xena, Zorro.

I am the creator and Administrator of A Writer's Desk, the forum for writers.


I love cats, dogs, roosters, birds, and esp. eels. (Have or have had pets of all of the above.) 




Image Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.usImage Hosted by ImageShack.us

Well, that's me. Why not comment and tell me about you?

~~EK

Here are some links to a few of my none-Squidoo sites:

EelKat on MySpace   


EelKat's Blog 


EelKat on Zazzle 


Copper Cockeral Cards & Gifts 



eel 1eel 2eel 3eel 4eel 5eel 6

cat eyes
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
bloody boarder
vampire bunniesvampire bunniesvampire bunnies

EelKat's Pages

See all of EelKat's pages

X

Gold Star

This is a certified gold star lens, which means it's the best of its kind on Squidoo (or shows some serious potential for getting there!)

Read more about gold stars »

X

EelKat is a Giant Squid!

Giants are distinguished by their exceptional skill for making top-notch lenses, and lots of them. Whenever you land on a Giant Squid's lens, you know the person behind it is passionate about the topic and is hard at work making the lens worthy of your time and attention.

Learn more about what it takes to be a Giant »